Well, I guess I'm Catholic Now

DMB
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edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hard to tell (yes, I'm as usual joking, and no offense to folks who consciously became Catholic).

First I got my Aramaic Bible (hardcopy) from LitPress.  That blessed me with a host of mailers from Catholic publishers.  Plus generated odd looks from my postlady who attends our church (well, gee, the Catholic church was just too far to walk, so I became an evangelical).

Then today I officially got my first Verbum.com email.  I'm not even signed up for any Logos.com emails, but this is Verbum.com. That's different.  Of course, I don't have Verbum or even punched in the Logos5 verbum command.  I do like Catholic authors. Maybe that was my mistake.

I sure hope Logos didn't buy LitPress's mailing list. Or all the other ones. Sigh.  

Well, okaaay.  Maybe the Catholic church isn't really that far to walk.  (Yes, I'm joking).

"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

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  • David Carter
    David Carter Member Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭

    I became Catholic when somebody in these forums said that the Church of England was Catholic [^o)]

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,763

    Denise, you aren't REALLY Catholic until you start getting white plastic glow-in-the-dark rosaries in the mail. Sorry. [:P]

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Denise, you aren't REALLY Catholic until you start getting white plastic glow-in-the-dark rosaries in the mail. Sorry. Stick out tongue

    OMG, I am catholic I am pretty sure i got one of those in the mail 15 years ago... Can some one help me... lol

    -Dan

  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Denise, you aren't REALLY Catholic until you start getting white plastic glow-in-the-dark rosaries in the mail. Sorry. Stick out tongue

    And a bobble-head Mary for the dash of your car. [:D]
  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    So I guess we're saying glow-in-the-dark roseries, and a bobble-head Mary are in order, for our VW van?.  I suppose our glow-in-the-dark white rabbit, plus the large flowers on the outside with the peace symbol might not be a good fit?  (At our evangelical church, our license plate did raise eyebrows, but the flowers were OK.)

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    I sure hope Logos didn't buy LitPress's mailing list. Or all the other ones. Sigh.  

    I started getting Verbum emails, too--after I had purchased some individual Catholic resources.

    I think they just assumed that if I bought some, then I was going to buy more.

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you, Todd.  

    I guess I forgot to order the Catholic resources in a plain brown wrapper (again no offense; just referring to Logos marketing logic).

    But I do wonder if there's ANOTHER email set of settings in Verbum.com?  Or does Logos simply ignore any and all settings.

    I hate to have to log into Verbum ... that might really get the emails flying!

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    At our evangelical church, our license plate did raise eyebrows,

    [:O]  Been there too.

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  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

     

    Denise said:

    I hate to have to log into Verbum ... that might really get the emails flying

    Abstain from all appearance of evil. [:P]
  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,763

    Denise said:

    But I do wonder if there's ANOTHER email set of settings in Verbum.com?  Or does Logos simply ignore any and all settings.

    Denise, Denise you know better. Logos enforces the email setting very conscientiously - and with the same level of QA exhibited in metadata. [:#]

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Don Awalt
    Don Awalt Member Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭

    A good next step might be to help get this resource over the top and out of PrePub:

    A Year With Pope Francis

    It's a great book and a worthy addition to your devotional reading!

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    But I do wonder if there's ANOTHER email set of settings in Verbum.com?  Or does Logos simply ignore any and all settings.

    Yesterday or the day before I got two e-mails telling me that since I've been ordering prepubs and CP's I must want to be subscribed to the prepub and CP e-mail lists, thus they had kindly rectified my forgetfulness by adding me.

    Of course, I very deliberately unsubscribed to those lists a looong time ago, opting for the RSS feed instead, and I've kept unsubscribing to them every time Logos has forcibly subscribed me to them, but you can't expect Logos to know that. After all, I've only complained on the forums, and possibly to Phil. I haven't gone all the way up to Bob or Dan.

    At least this time they told me they'd added me...

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Don .... he's my hero.   Of course (and not offending once again), I consider him as one of many humans living on the face of the earth (as I do with all the religionists).

    But the values he lived in South America, and now as a major religious leader are truly impressive.  Wish that those same values could be expressed among more leaders, but beggers can't be choosers.  Diamonds aren't diamonds because they're common.  And I don't dare sign up for that pre-pub!!

    fgh ... I guess what bugged me was the usual slimy marketing talk in the email (I know, I know, I'm too picky). But it assured me that the sender could save me immense amounts of money by personally signing me up to the pre-pub.  Oh wow.  A $1,700 pre-pub no less.  The tone was that somehow by availing myself of the senders special attentions, life would be so good.

    Plus I don't like emails from anonymous 'people' instead of companies.  It's a red-flag.  And worse, I don't even consider the pre-pub as 'Catholic' per se. I guess, once it got its Verbum monicker, it got 'turned Catholic'.

    Now oddly, Accordance woke up and sent me their first email. Envious of Verbum.com!! Earlier, I bought a minimum package to get Carta (I think anyway). So they wanted to upgrade me from my public domain books to more public domain books.  Whoo hoo!  I didn't have the heart to tell them their latest software update can't handle their slow server timing out. I haven't yet downloaded their previous books (but get them on iOS).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Alex Renn
    Alex Renn Member Posts: 42 ✭✭

    Denise,

    Thank you for sharing your concerns. Looking at your account, it appears you received an email from one of our sales representatives. They probably saw that you've made similar purchases, and merely thought you'd be interested. I guess that means you're not Catholic after all...

    You are (as stated) unsubscribed from all marketing emails. And we do take that very seriously.


  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

    Alex Renn said:

    I guess that means you're not Catholic after all..

    Be sure to return your Rosary, and Bobble-Head.
  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    you aren't REALLY Catholic until you start getting white plastic glow-in-the-dark rosaries in the mail.

    Suddenly, I want one... [;)]

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


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  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭

    BillS said:

    Suddenly, I want one... Wink

    Ebay has them as cheap as $2.50 Wink

    -Dan

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you Alex for your comments.   There's a saying in Japan ... 'no means no' ... that samarai children were taught, along with proper use of bamboo swords.  I'm really not sure why that was important.  Maybe sometimes no didn't mean no.  Today, I'd suspect no still means no (emails).

    I put out an all-points-bulletin for any Catholic resources in my library (using my vaunted Logos search capability of course).  I already cleaned out the evangelicals a while back. I found three Catholic Bibles (have to be more careful about THAT!), some 'patristic' orders  (going to have to be more careful about 'patristic' ... that means 'Catholic'), plus there's those Dead Sea Scrolls Catholic authors (hmmm ... what to do? ... some of them are already dead).

    But at least our glow-in-the-dark white rabbit is happy again, plus the Shinto shrine trinket that provides substantial protection for our car from Shinto evil spirits.  They can be a real problem.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    I hate to send this thread back to the 'top' again.

    However, Alex (Renn) is due an apology. Alex is the Catholic Marketing Team Lead (his title).

    And it turns out my poorly directed complaints about Logos marketing are misplaced.   They weren't the source of my frustrations.

    As it turns out, there's another group in Logos that sends out emails (but have another 'flag' that has to be set, separate from the other gazillion email flags in my account; Alex was kind enough to offer to set it for me).

    In any event, Alex is due not only an apology, but many thanks for extra emails to try to sort it out.  I'd say the Catholic Logos customers are especially lucky to have his services (and Logos as a company too!).

    Maybe he'd like to ask for a transfer to the new Church of Christ Marketing Team  (I made that up!).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Okie dokie.  We tested out the secret no-email switch for the mystery group that doesn't work in Logos marketing but sends out emails to Catholics from the Verbum site.  It doesn't work.  Another computer-generated 'personal' email.

    But I'm not upset at all. Today I received a special mailing from a Catholic relief group (well, gee ... they heard about my glow-in-the-dark roserie beads).

    The envelope has a major warning: 'Do not shred; angel medallion inside'.

    That theologically piqued my curiousity.  I didn't remember any Biblical prohibitions about shredding angels or their medallions.  But angels are heavily involved in Jesus' coming, so shredding them might not be good.

    But as it turns out, the 'medallion' was METAL ... ergo shredding warnings.

    Well, OK!  I'm thinking to bring my angel medallion to church and put it in the plate.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

    Denise said:

    Well, OK!  I'm thinking to bring my angel medallion to church and put it in the plate

    That would certainly apply if that church happened to be Catholic. >>> Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

    Edit: Having been admonished, I will provide the Untruncated passage. 

    Luke 20:25 (KJV 1900)

    25 And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,763

    Paul C said:

    Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

    Methinks ye truncated said verse to the detriment of its meaning.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

    Did they send an addressed, postage paid envelope? They might appreciate some of your unwanted pizza and burger coupons.[:)]

  • Paul C
    Paul C Member Posts: 424 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Paul C said:

    Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

    Methinks ye truncated said verse to the detriment of its meaning.

    Ya Think? ... So, I should seriously consider a career as a Bible commentator?  

    Note: I edited the original post to include the entire passage.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    I'm thinking to bring my angel medallion to church and put it in the plate

       DO IT!     [*]     DO IT!    [*]     DO IT!

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭

    We don't have little Caesars in our town.  And the coin is too small for a pizza.  

    So the angel goes to church.  It's a small church, so an angel appearing in the church offering will no doubt merit the pastor's involvement.  'Hmm ... this looks like it may well be a Catholic angel. The angel wings are little too pointy.'

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.