Logos Library Reporter
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It would be a pity if Logos does not work to incorporate Steve's efforts into the main program.
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Dave Hooton said:
If possible please fix the headings generated in Windows 8 In Windows 7 it appears as Logos 4/5/ Verbum Library Reporter so truncating the heading to something like Logos Library Reporter might fix the issue in W8
Will do Dave, thanks for the input! i didn't even notice it in your image until you brought it to my attention. i have truncated it to Logos Library Reporter. Will post the update within the next few days.
Edit: Also thanks for letting us know so far that LLR runs on Vista, Win7, & Win8.
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I'm just getting back from vacation and playing catch-up, so haven't had much chance to spend time with it. What I've tried does work on my Windows 8.1 desktop. I don't see the truncation Dave sees, but I agree with changing the title... Or actually, removing it as the title bar already says "Logos Library Reporter". Dave, are you using Windows scaling or large fonts?
I do see occasional truncation/redraw problems in the status area. This happens in a number of places and seems to consistently occur at the same places. Here's a video run through of a few steps. Notice the status area at 0:03, 0:27, & 2:45. There may be more I missed.
It would kinda be nice if the status area accumulated logs for the current session so I could scroll back through.
Also, noticed it's possible to compare the same two catalogs.
Great work on this, Steve. It's very much appreciated.
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Is it possible to compare Libraries with other users by using the Backup feature? Zip up one of the directories in .\Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBackups, transfer to another computer, unzip, Copy from Backup, Read DB, Save DB.
Not sure of the usefulness, but curious.
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Randy W. Sims said:
Also, noticed it's possible to compare the same two catalogs.
Yes that is true, but there is a message shown in the report drawing your attention to this detail.
i left it that way on purpose, in case i might find some way that this might become useful in the future. (it also allows me to check some of the internal accuracies in the program)
If it truly is an annoyance then i could put up a warning window and for-go continuing that report.
Randy W. Sims said:I do see occasional truncation/redraw problems in the status area. This happens in a number of places and seems to consistently occur at the same places. Here's a video run through of a few steps. Notice the status area at 0:03, 0:27, & 2:45. There may be more I missed.
yes, i've seen these also. It seems that refresh is not completed to the status panel prior to VB executing another action (which follows afterwards). i suppose that i could add a delay to ensure that the refresh has time to complete. But i really hate to make these processes take even more time. After-all, the shown states in the status is mostly to let you know the program is actively working to complete the task.
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Hi Steve, I am glad to see you on the forum again.
Blessings in Christ.
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Randy W. Sims said:
I don't see the truncation Dave sees, but I agree with changing the title... Or actually, removing it as the title bar already says "Logos Library Reporter". Dave, are you using Windows scaling or large fonts?
I use Windows 8 custom scaling but didn't want to get technical as only one part of the heading is truncated.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Thanks Steve. Works great! A blessing to see my library for greater clarity.
Dave
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Randy W. Sims said:
Is it possible to compare Libraries with other users by using the Backup feature? Zip up one of the directories in .\Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBackups, transfer to another computer, unzip, Copy from Backup, Read DB, Save DB.
It might.
i would recommend that if you zipped a specific folder under MyBackups, that you make sure the Zipped file is not showing under the MyBackups folder (e.g. have the zip program make the destination for the zip to a folder other than MyBackups).
The backup folder names under MyBackups is critical in exactly how they are named. It is expected to use the Backup DB button to create these folder names.
That being said, a user could unzip a backed up folder and then move it under the MyBackups folder (first child). You would need to restart the LLR program to have it read the MyBackups folder and show those items on the Read Catalog tab in the Backup listbox. Then you could use the Copy from Backup button to have the program copy the DBs into its working folder ready for the Read DB and Save DB buttons use.
EDIT: Randy, thanks for taking time to make the video of the Status truncation problem!! Also thanks for reporting any issues you find with the program!
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Tes said:
Hi Steve, I am glad to see you on the forum again.
Thanks Tes
Dave Sloma said:Thanks Steve. Works great! A blessing to see my library for greater clarity.
Thanks Dave, glad you like it.
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Thanks very much, Steve. Beautiful work!
Windows 8.1 64-bit, Core i5-3330, 8GB RAM
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Hi Timothy,
Timothy Brown said:Thanks very much, Steve. Beautiful work!
Thank you for taking time to let us know that LLR installed for you!
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Hint
After pressing the Read DB button and you see the Date is newer than one in your Saved Catalog DB,
Then you will probably want to press the Save DB button to add this new catalog to your Saved Catalog DB.
Then you can go to the Report tab and run the Summary of differences report to see what has changed.
[to view a Sharper image, click on the above image. After viewing it, press the Back browser button to return here][Note: in new ver 1.0.3.2, after using the Read DB button, there is a line in the Status window letting you know 'if' or 'if not' that the just read catalog was found in your Saved Catalog DB. If it says "SUGGEST using the 'Save DB' button", then i recommend doing just that. Afterwards you can run the Summary report between the newly added catalog and another one to see what has changed.]
EDIT: a user emailed me asking what LLR was used for, so i replied back to him the info below. This might be a more concise description of LLR than you may have grasped from the website's description.
LLR generates various reports on changes in your Logos Library over time. It requires that you run the program regularly to see if a newer catalog version has been found (per the Read DB button). And if so it requires that you add the newer catalog info to the programs database (per the Save DB button). Then you can go to the Reports Tab and run a report (Summary) on the changes after identifying which catalog Dates that you want the program to use in the report. After it generates the report, the program opens the report in your internet Browser.Since the maximum benefit is reports over time, then when you first install and run the report you will only have a single date for a catalog. And this will not allow you to generate a Summary report until some time in the future once that you have added at least a 2nd date to the database.
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.2)This update has 3 Fixes and 3 new Features. See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]0 -
Nice, Steve. I finally got a chance to try this out. I'm not really all that interested in the reports showing differences between previous versions of my catalog and current, nor do I have other people whose catalogs I want to compare mine with. What I'm really looking forward to, though, is the hidden books report (still to come), since there is no way to see anything more than the titles of those in Logos. Sometimes I'm looking for books to unhide and would like to be able to look for them by other metadata than the title.
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Hi Rosie,
Rosie Perera said:What I'm really looking forward to, though, is the hidden books report (still to come)
This report is already included in LLR (you might have read an older post in this thread)
Rosie Perera said:Sometimes I'm looking for books to unhide and would like to be able to look for them by other metadata than the title.
Well you will not find it in LLR [:(]. The db that LLR reads only has 2 fields (Title & ID). Sorry...
EDIT: you might try copying the Title from LLR's (Hidden books report) and searching Logos' site for the book to get more info on that title.
[Just noticed that the word (future) is still on that report's radio-button.
Will fix it and post the new installer (but will not change the version #)] (new installer is on the website)0 -
steve clark said:Rosie Perera said:
What I'm really looking forward to, though, is the hidden books report (still to come)
This report is already included in LLR (you might have read an older post in this thread)
No, I was looking at the UI in the LLR which I just downloaded and installed today:
Maybe you've implemented it already but forgot to remove "(future)" from the radio button label. (EDIT: Oops, I just saw you'd realized that and had edited your post above.)
steve clark said:Rosie Perera said:Sometimes I'm looking for books to unhide and would like to be able to look for them by other metadata than the title.
Well you will not find it in LLR
. The db that LLR reads only has 2 fields (Title & ID). Sorry...EDIT: you might try copying the Title from LLR's (Hidden books report) and searching Logos' site for the book to get more info on that title.
Bummer. The whole point of my wanting something like this would be if I couldn't remember the name of the title and wanted to find it by author (e.g., for Perseus books, wanting to unhide something/anything by Plato, but not remembering any of his titles -- a hypothetical scenario since I *can* remember Plato titles, but this has happened for me before with other authors). Or I've sometimes wanted to filter my hidden books list to show all the ones that were ancient manuscripts, or all the ones that were in Greek or Latin, in case there was one I wanted to unhide. But if Logos doesn't include that info in the database, then I guess there's nothing you can do about it. I hope someday Logos will do a fuller implementation of the hidden books feature that would allow us to do most of the things we can do in our library (filter/sort) on the hidden books list.
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Rosie Perera said:
Maybe you've implemented it already but forgot to remove "(future)" from the radio button label.
That is exactly what happened. See my previous post. i have recompiled, zipped, & uploaded the new installer fixing this. (i also downloaded the installer and ran a clean install to ensure everything works)
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I edited my post after noticing you'd edited yours. See also the extra paragraph I added.
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read it...sympathize with your dilemma.
EDIT: Thanks Rosie for pointing out the error of leaving (future) on the radio-button! i have included this in the release notes on the website.
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steve clark said:
New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.2)
This update has 3 Fixes and 3 new Features. See the release notes to view these changes.
Hi Steve.
I was getting errors running reports, so I thought to remove MyReports (the folder) & regenerate the catalogs (the previous version was 1.0.2.0). It is now running fine on Windows 7 but I won't be able to test the headings in Win 8 for a while.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.5)This update has 3 Fixes and 2 updates. See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email.0 -
Alert: another build to come out soon (ver 1.0.3.?)
Dave has found a problem with the LastUpdated field in LLR's database!
This can cause erroneous LastUpdated data to be used in your reports!So make sure you use the Backup DB button to save a copy of your Logos Catalogs
[you will be able to use these backups to Rebuild catalogs in your LLR database.
i will add a section in the website for steps on rebuilding a catalog in your LLR db.]0 -
New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.8)This update has 2 Fixes and 3 updates. See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]It is recommended to Rebuild your LLR catalogs.
Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email..
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steve clark said:
New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.8)
Installed Ok in Win 7 and Last Updated is fixed.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
Installed Ok in Win 7 and Last Updated is fixed.
Dave,
Thank you for letting us know that it is working for you!
An even bigger thanks for all your time and help in resolving these problems!!!0 -
Tip:
You might not have realized that it is wise to use the Read DB button periodically to see if Logos has a newer version of its catalog.db.
If you periodically use this button, you will see in the Status box a line which says:
SUGGEST using the 'Save DB' button, this catalog date is Not in your 'Saved Catalog DB'
when a newer Logos catalog version was found!This indicates that your just read catalog has a different date. You would want to use the Save DB button to add this version of your catalog to LLR's Saved Catalog DB. Then you would probably want to go and run a report to see what differences were found.
[e.g. i usually run the Summary of differences between catalogs report; setting Catalog-A to the newest catalog just saved, then set Catalog-B to the previous date. This allows me to generate and view a report of the changes between catalog dates. Not every new catalog version will have visible changes as noted by the report. But when meta-data or LastUpdated changes or new books were added or books were hidden, then the summary report reveals these.]0 -
Randy,
your idea is a very good one.
Randy W. Sims said:Is it possible to compare Libraries with other users by using the Backup feature? Zip up one of the directories in .\Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBackups, transfer to another computer, unzip, Copy from Backup, Read DB, Save DB.
Steps to copy Logos Catalog files from Someone Else's computer to yours
so you can view it in LLR's reportsNote: when you see LLR below, it is abbreviations for the program Logos Library Reporter.
- Run LLR on someone else's computer (make sure they use the Backup DB button after using the Read DB button)
- Use windows explorer on their computer to find which backup folder you want in the
Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBackups folder to copy over to your computer.
- In windows explorer right-click on the backup folder that you want to put on your computer and in the drop-down menu click on
Send to->Compressed (zipped) Folder (windows explorer will create a zip of that folder).
- Now copy this zipped folder to a Thumb-drive (flash-stick) and take it to your computer.
- On your computer connect the Thumb-drive and view it with windows explorer and find your zipped folder.
- double-click on the zipped folder and keep opening the folders in the zip until you get to where you see 2 files (catalog.db & ResourceManager.db).
- Copy these files from the zip and paste them into Documents\Logos Lib Webpage folder on your computer overwriting the ones already in that folder.
- Now in LLR check the box "Just use the catalog ..." and press the Read DB button.
(LLR will now read the catalog you copied from the other computer.
Don't forget to use the Save DB button after the Read DB button is finished to add the new catalog info into LLR's Saved DB.
Also when you use the Save DB button and get the prompt window, you will probably want to add the OWNER's name there so you will know in reports who's computer the catalog came from)
P.S. After you finish the above steps:
Don't forget to uncheck the box "Just use the catalog ..." before trying to get a fresh copy of the Logos catalog files on your Computer!0 - Run LLR on someone else's computer (make sure they use the Backup DB button after using the Read DB button)
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Hmmmm ... [:D]
I have not tried it yet but this should work for copying a Mac db into a windows VM ? ... and not having to download all my resources into the VM? (not to mention the indexing!)
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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Martin Folley said:
I have not tried it yet but this should work for copying a Mac db into a windows VM ? ... and not having to download all my resources into the VM?
Not recommended. Just use Method 3 to install Logos into the Windows VM and ensure that the Mac Resource folder can be read from the VM or copy the Resource folder to an area where it can be shared with the VM.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hint: when posting Reports in a forum post
If you want Catalog-B to align in your post on a new line:
- in the forum editor after pasting your LLR report into it, move your cursor just to the left of Catalog-B and press Shift-Enter
- Then when you Preview or Post it, it will showup on the next line.
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Below is a post from one of my reports per the above steps:
[Notice Catalog-B, i highlighted it to draw your attention to it being on a new line]Your Logos Library Report
Report on books in which Titles have changed
Report generated: Jul 14, 2014 08:56 AMCatalog-A
AKA: sc 8/2/2012
db entry: [Catalog] Aug 2, 2012 4:23:20 PM
Book count: 747
Owner: Steve
Note: from backup (has ResMan)
Catalog-B
AKA:
db entry: [Catalog] Jul 4, 2014 10:26:28 AM
Book count: 894
Owner: Steve
Note:Books in which Titles are different from Catalog-A (sc 8/2/2012)
(found 32 books with different titles and the same Logos ResIDs)- Seven Myths About Small Groups: How to Keep from Falling into Common Traps
Cat-B Title: Seven Myths about Small Groups: How to Keep from Falling into Common Traps - The Gospel According to Peter: Mark and I & II Peter
Cat-B Title: The Gospel according to Peter: Mark and I & II Peter
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Another option
if you just want to share a report, then you could just add it as an attachment using the paperclip icon in the forum editor toolbar. Some reports can be quiet lengthy and would be distracting to users as they view your post. (i.e. see the link below in which i have used the paperclip icon to attach it to this post). This way you can place text above the report link telling the forum viewers what you wanted them to know about your report. But for those using report(s) to explain problems, then you probably want to embed part of the report in your post (per above First option).
5852.Report.htm
Warning: when attaching reports and you are attaching more than 1 report, you may want to use the Filename option in LLR to name those reports. Because when you generate a report without a filename LLR uses the same generic filename. The outcome of multiple reports without filename being used is that each report will be the last one you generated!
This is not a problem when running LLR on your computer as your Browser has cached the previous reports. But this can be a problem when attaching them to a Forum post. You can find your named reports in Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyReports folder. The generic filename is Report.htm.(this post added to LLR's Special Instructions page)
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.9)
This update has 2 Fixes . See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email.[added links to some Hints/Tips in this thread to LLR's Special Instructions page. This might be useful so that you don't have to navigate thru all these different pages of this Post to find these Hints/Tips.]
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Dave
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steve clark said:
New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.9)
Can I suggest for the next update that Resource Type be displayed consistent with Logos 4/5 e.g.
encyclopedia instead of text.monograph.encyclopedia
dictionary instead of text.monograph.dictionary
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
Can I suggest for the next update that Resource Type be displayed consistent with Logos 4/5 e.g.
encyclopedia instead of text.monograph.encyclopedia
dictionary instead of text.monograph.dictionary
Ahhh....missed that one. It shows up correct in other reports. Will fix it now while i am thinking about it.
Thanks Dave !!!
P.S. Thanks Dave to letting us know the heading works in Win8!
EDIT: upcoming in the next version, i have changed the sort order for catalogs in the listboxes; it will show them Newest to Oldest (opposite from what you currently see). Often when generating a report you will want to use the current catalogs, so this should make it faster to locate your catalog's when the version comes out. Also in the next version, it will block users from using the same catalog in both Cat-A & Cat-B, with a warning msg. As Randy pointed out this is non-productive.
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steve clark said:
EDIT: upcoming in the next version, i have changed the sort order for catalogs in the listboxes;
Can you correct the following Backup details e.g.
Your Backup foldersize = 112 MB with 14 entries
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Your Backup foldersize = 112 MB with 7 entries and 14 files
Because I like to know how many folders are listed to correlate with the "entries" shown in the Saved Catalog list, and it will show 13 files if one was not included!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
Your Backup foldersize = 112 MB with 7 entries and 14 files
Because I like to know how many folders are listed to correlate with the "entries" shown in the Saved Catalog list, and it will show 13 files if one was not included!
Done!
Good idea Dave!
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.10)
This update has 2 Fixes and 2 Updates . See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email.Edit: For those who upload their BookCover report to their host server, this version has fixed problems with the HTML so that it should work properly from your host server (i.e. Now you should see your BookCover report when you Browse your website for the URL where you placed it.)
This requires:
- uploading the file Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBiblography.htm to your website. (You might want to rename this on your server to index.htm depending on if it is the only .htm in your folder. This makes it the default HTM to be opened)
- In the same directory as MyBiblography.htm on your server, you need to create the folder (directory) Data. It must be exactly this case.
- Then copy all files from Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\Data to your server directory Data.
0 - uploading the file Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\MyBiblography.htm to your website. (You might want to rename this on your server to index.htm depending on if it is the only .htm in your folder. This makes it the default HTM to be opened)
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Always get an error message. Just can't get it to work.
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What's the error message? It works wonderfully here (though I haven't had much chance to say so lately). What OS version and Logos/Verbum version?
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Hi Bill,
Bill Cook said:Always get an error message. Just can't get it to work.
Sorry to hear that you are having problems running the program.[:(]
If you would email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Then perhaps i can help you with your problem. If you are willing i can even connect to your computer and try to fix the problem.
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steve clark said:
New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.10)
Installed on Windows 7 OK (assume Win 8 is OK unless I report differently!). Thanks for the changes.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.12)
This update has 1 Fix. See the release notes to view these changes.
For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email..
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.3.14)
This update has 2 improvements. See the release notes to view these changes.
Added more Spreadsheet support for Library data.
Updated website for CSV for Spreadsheet.For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email..
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Thanks, Steve
Installation went OK
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hi Dave,
Dave Hooton said:Installation went OK
Thank you Dave for letting us know the installation went well.
Thank you for all your help and time checking the program!
EDIT: you are welcome brother. Hope you find it useful.
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New Update to LLR is available (ver 1.0.4.0)
This update has1 new Report and 2 improvements and 1 fix. See the release notes to view these changes.
Added a new Report: All books by Tag. This will report on all your books that you tagged.For those who want to install this new Update, please go to the Download page on the website and follow the instructions.
[users who already have LLR installed, please follow Step 1 carefully]Edit: if you find a problem with LLR, please email me: admin [AT] clark-tx [DOT] net
Also please attach the LogFile (Documents\Logos Lib Webpage\LogosLibReporter_Logfile.txt) to your email.P.S. i will probably be taking a rest from changing LLR for a while...
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Noticed a problem with LLR's website when viewing with IE9 (Internet Explorer ver 9) yesterday. As you scrolled red horizontal lines appeared in the upper section of the webpage. The more you scrolled the denser the lines got. i tracked this down and fixed it. It appears IE9 didn't handle a CSS statement properly, but FireFox, Chrome, & Opera did. So this should be fixed in IE9 and also works in the other 3 browsers (don't have Safari, it will not load on my PC).
Edit: added a popup on hover over a couple of words on the Home page, that is how i discovered the problem when checking if the popup worked on IE9.
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steve clark said:
Noticed a problem with LLR's website when viewing with IE9 (Internet Explorer ver 9)
I don't use IE but this morning it told me "Your browser has been upgraded". Fearing the worst I checked the version, but it still showed IE9 2011; which I like for use with Libronix.
BTW I updated to LLS 1.0.4 OK.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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