Surface Pro 3
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Peace Milford.
No special/hidden meaning. I just like critters. So glad to see you posting again.
God Bless
P.S. be aware that there are 2 Paul Cs on here. The other one uses a hyphen. (Paul-C)
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Hi Mr. Anderson (Bill).
I enjoy reading your posts Kind Sir.
As for me and my house, we are not in Alaska and I am no longer interested in purchasing an updated Microsoft Handwarmer.
I want to sell my original one too...sigh.
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Hi, Josh:
Your skepticism, and your mournful sighs are justified, ... to a degree. The first units had their flaws. It is well documented. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall the Guru from down under giving you fair warning when you were doing your original research. (about the overheating, and poor battery life) Now I ain't one to say I told you so. (Even in the cases when I did tell them so) But this is different. >>>> He told you so.
Your experience has certainly reinforced my wait and see attitude. But I have other issues with the platform. For Me, A tablet is a handheld device. ( I prefer an 8 inch to carry around. It fits in my bib overall or cargo pockets.) While I know the large display would be a dream, It appears too big to fit that bill. They have carved away every possible gram of weight and Millimeter of thickness. I am awed by the technology. That slim profile may have a drawback in laptop mode. It may not be as stable as the real thing. So again, This is very much a spectator sport for me. I too appreciate Bill sharing his research with us.
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JoshInRI said:
Hi Mr. Anderson (Bill).
I enjoy reading your posts Kind Sir.
As for me and my house, we are not in Alaska and I am no longer interested in purchasing an updated Microsoft Handwarmer.
I want to sell my original one too...sigh.
The SP1 as a first-generation device had its flaws, heat being one of them. The Haswell chips in the SP2 have reduced the heat considerably and my current Atom-based Asus VivoTab Note 8 is absolutely cold to the touch.
There probably still is a market for selling used SP1s on eBay, Craigslist or maybe even Swappa.
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I had a Surface Pro 2; bit the bullet and sprang for a Pro 3. The reviews addressed shortcomings I had noticed: screen ratio, touch pad, weight (and weight-distribution) and to some extent, kickstand. I have the 8gb RAM, 256gb SSD model (same specs as my SP2). And as you might guess, I have a very kind and somewhat indulgent spouse.
Logos runs fast on both machines. Mind you, I've only had the new machine a day, but as far a usability, the SP3 paired with Logos5 is responsive and the extra real estate on the screen is nice.
I actually keep my notes in MS Word, from long force of habit.
BTW, anyone interested in a slightly used Surface Pro 2?
Pastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
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Yes. Yes, I am. Shoot me an email at mullima AT gmail DOT com, sir and we'll discuss it.Steve Johnson said:BTW, anyone interested in a slightly used Surface Pro 2?
"I read dead people..."
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Steve,
Hope you really enjoy your Surface Pro 3! I will stick with my Surface Pro 2 for at least another year or so. Probably upgrade to a Surface Pro 4 or 5 one day. I know the SP 3 is great with the extra screen space, but there is no way I can upgrade every year. And I still am in love with my Surface Pro 2, so I will stick with it for a while.
That is the doggone trouble with computers. There is always something better round the corner. But I have found my niche with the Surface Pro 2 for now, and will upgrade again one of these years. One of these years when it has been long enough not to endanger my life when my wife found out.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley0 -
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Steve,
Hope you really enjoy your Surface Pro 3! I will stick with my Surface Pro 2 for at least another year or so. Probably upgrade to a Surface Pro 4 or 5 one day. I know the SP 3 is great with the extra screen space, but there is no way I can upgrade every year. And I still am in love with my Surface Pro 2, so I will stick with it for a while.
That is the doggone trouble with computers. There is always something better round the corner. But I have found my niche with the Surface Pro 2 for now, and will upgrade again one of these years. One of these years when it has been long enough not to endanger my life when my wife found out.
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Hi Michael! Well said, I like your comments.
Blessings in Christ.
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Paul C said:
Congrats. I'll be impatiently awaiting your review.
It arrived today, the only slight problem being that it is taking a while downloading 32gb of resources and then it is the joys of indexing, but looks good so far.
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Please continue to keep us updated. I have no doubt the hardware is more than adequate. I will still be interested in your review on that aspect. I am more interested in the platform/functionality. After you use it for a bit, Please comment on the size. Does it fill the bill as a truly portable tablet? Is it stable as a laptop, or does it seem top heavy? In short, the usability, and Wow factors.
Thanks again. ... Enjoy!
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I sprang for a SP3 i5/8GB RAM/256GB SSD.
I like the new digitizer better than the one on the previous models. It is more accurate, and the cursor doesn't wander at the edges of the screen.
If you do something processor heavy, like index your Logos library, the SP3 will heat up. But here's the thing: because of the fully adjustable kickstand, I hardly ever feel the heat. If I am just doing normal stuff like browsing through my Logos library and reading, highlighting, etc., there is no noticeable heat. When I have the tablet propped up on my lap using the kickstand, even if the SP3 was warm or hot, I wouldn't interact with those areas.
The screen is beautiful. Some have complained that Microsoft has throttled the CPU of the i5/i7 units under load because of the high thermals, but I haven't run into much throttling that affects performance when I need it.
For just plain note-taking, I love OneNote. To me, it's the killer app for the SP line of tablets.
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Hi, Bill;
Good to hear from you. I am looking forward to your input. I know the little Asus vivo and the SP3 are like apples and oranges. ...but would you detail the transition? Do you find the SP3 cumbersome. Do you find it unstable/top heavy? Have you totally abandoned the Asus? Or is there still a niche for it? I am still content with the combination of the Venue for a pocket rocket, and the Lenovo x220t convertible. (i7, 160 SSD, 8GB Ram,12.5" screen, but 3.5 lbs) I bought that a couple years ago and the form factor is too similar to the SP3 to allow me to claim it has depreciated to the point I need to replace it. I find myself "needing" both the Dell and the Lenovo. I am intrigued by the stats of the SP3. However, I hope to have the luxury of others' real world application and reviews while I get my money's worth out of the current machine. I thank you in advance for sharing your experience and guidance. ... God Bless.
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I appricate SP3 from what I have read up to now,but I would like to wait for SP4 for better improvement.
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
I appricate SP3 from what I have read up to now,but I would like to wait for SP4 for better improvement.
With the new Broadwell-Y chips being able to go fanless we may finally be seeing some Windows tablet hybrids which really live up to the vision promised at the Windows 8 launch. Considering that Windows 9 is coming out early in 2015, that Apple will be introducing thinner and lighter MacBooks and there will be a 12.9 iPad Air introduced about the same time, it would seem to me that unless your current computer or tablet has died the wisest thing to do is wait. Another good reason to wait is to see how the 64-bit Logos impacts Mac performance, up until now the main reason I have stayed with Windows is Logos. In addition, Apple's vision of having laptops and tablets working together, rather than the MS vision of everything in on device, might prove to be more practical in the real world, by January or February of next year I think we will have a pretty good idea of how the new Apple OS's work out. Just another reason to wait and see before investing a lot of cash into a product you may regret purchasing.
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Thanks for your insight. the current flurry of technology is overwhelming. Praise God! [:)]
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I purchases a Surface Pro 3. I purchased the i5-8GB-256GB version. I have had it for several months now.
Logos.
Wow. I don't know what to say. It runs Logos as smoothly as any desktop or laptop. I finally have ditched the Logos mobile versions and now I use this. EVERYTHING at my fingertips while in Sunday School or the preacher teaches. Quick, responsive. I have had no problems, no complaints and I love that all my files are automatically synced.
Before this I had an iPad and used my phone....I can never go back now.
OneNote
If you like Onenote you will love it with the Surface pen. I no longer carry paper with me because I just write on my Surface Pro which is about the size of legal pad of paper anyway.
Microsoft billed this as the tablet that replaces your laptop. I know Surface 4 will be better, but they are really being truthful on this one. I have even gone on trips and left my laptop at home and just taken my Surface. I did not miss my laptop.
Now, I have one caveat to all this. You have to watch the battery. I take my son to church early and let him watch youtube videos. When I do after about 1 1/2 hours the battery can be down as far as 60% if I have the sound and screen light up high.
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Keith Larson said:Tes said:
I appricate SP3 from what I have read up to now,but I would like to wait for SP4 for better improvement.
With the new Broadwell-Y chips being able to go fanless we may finally be seeing some Windows tablet hybrids which really live up to the vision promised at the Windows 8 launch. Considering that Windows 9 is coming out early in 2015, that Apple will be introducing thinner and lighter MacBooks and there will be a 12.9 iPad Air introduced about the same time, it would seem to me that unless your current computer or tablet has died the wisest thing to do is wait. Another good reason to wait is to see how the 64-bit Logos impacts Mac performance, up until now the main reason I have stayed with Windows is Logos. In addition, Apple's vision of having laptops and tablets working together, rather than the MS vision of everything in on device, might prove to be more practical in the real world, by January or February of next year I think we will have a pretty good idea of how the new Apple OS's work out. Just another reason to wait and see before investing a lot of cash into a product you may regret purchasing.
Thank you Keith, you have mentioned a lot ,which make me worry to buy now and then regret later.
Blessings in Christ.
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Paul C said:
Hi, Bill;
Good to hear from you. I am looking forward to your input. I know the little Asus vivo and the SP3 are like apples and oranges. ...but would you detail the transition? Do you find the SP3 cumbersome. Do you find it unstable/top heavy? Have you totally abandoned the Asus? Or is there still a niche for it? I am still content with the combination of the Venue for a pocket rocket, and the Lenovo x220t convertible. (i7, 160 SSD, 8GB Ram,12.5" screen, but 3.5 lbs) I bought that a couple years ago and the form factor is too similar to the SP3 to allow me to claim it has depreciated to the point I need to replace it. I find myself "needing" both the Dell and the Lenovo. I am intrigued by the stats of the SP3. However, I hope to have the luxury of others' real world application and reviews while I get my money's worth out of the current machine. I thank you in advance for sharing your experience and guidance. ... God Bless.
Hi Paul,
I am trying to migrate from three devices to two. I had the Asus VivoTab Note 8, as you know, an 11-inch Macbook Air, and my iPhone. The SP3 is very versatile. It eliminates the Asus tablet and the MBAir. Ideally, I'd get a bigger phone to be the device to use when I want to read eBooks on a smaller device. Perhaps the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 that will be announced in the next week. Android now has a OneNote app that will allow handwritten notes on the digitizer of the Note 4. That would work really well with the SP3 because I use it to take notes at work. I could even use the Galaxy Note 4 to take sermon notes in church using OneNote. To answer your question about the stability and heaviness of the SP3, I have not found the SP3 cumbersome at all. Total weight of the tablet is 1.75 lbs., and about 2.4 lbs. with the keyboard attached (matching the weight of the MBAir). If anything, I find holding a tablet -- any tablet -- cumbersome which is why I went with an 8-inch tablet to begin with. But the new kickstand on the SP3 does away with that. I either use the SP3 in laptop mode or have the SP3 without the keyboard propped up on a desk or in my lap, leaving my hands free. All tablets should have the fully-extending kickstand of the SP3. It makes using a tablet so much more enjoyable. Another thing: the screen on the SP3 is stunning and runs circles around the poor resolution TFT screen of the MBAir. At the end of the day I am replacing two devices that I had limited use for with one device (SP3) that does what the other two devices do, only better.
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(me trying to be funny)
My faith in Jesus Christ and the 10 commandments wisely prevent me from knocking off a bank to purchase this item.
Its ridiculously priced so that only the very rich (not this common user) can purchase it.
Enough said.,
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Thanks for your glowing review. It has further whetted my appetite. But I must resist the urge... A bit longer.[:)]Bill Anderson said:At the end of the day I am replacing two devices that I had limited use for with one device
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FYI
if you want to use the Surface Pro three to make highlights for notes and clippings in the full logos app without the keyboard attachment there are two things to know.
1. The surface pen works well for highlights
2. if you set the columns in your opened books to auto then you can select text with your finger just like you would on an ipad, if you set the columns to none then you can not highlight text without the keyboard or pen because the gesture with your finger just scrolls the book.
Using the i7 SP3 and working well do far (only day 2).
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