Interface....inital impressions
Clean and crisp..."home page" colour is much better than the pastels of Logos 3...at least what I can see of it anway since indexing of resources is crashing and so my experience of the program is limited ast this stage...I hope the pastels don't show up later....when the screen first came up I must say I found it a bit too overwhelming with all those articles covering the desktop, my eyes were dartig all of the pace not quite sure where to look so I turned off all of the feeds except for the last feed on the list which appears to having nothing on it at the moment....my eyes are now not overwhelemd when the interface comes up.
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Could someone post a few screenshots? I'm a DVD install tester, and so I'm waiting to see...
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Chen I first opened the program and saw the home page I was taken aback for a short time... I think that many will like the look especially those who are not using the program for indepth study where the have many books open in workspace. I use libronix mostly for sermon writing, bible study and the like, I have my workspace set to load 21 books each time I start Libronix so now how do I get a workspace set up and also, the other big question. I am running on a C: drive that is nearly full, I have all of my resources on my
drive... how can I change the store directory in V4 to /xxx.xxx0 -
RevKellyTodd said:
I have all of my resources on my
drive... how can I change the store directory in V4 to /xxx.xxxCheck the FAQ discussion - it sounds like its not possible in Beta 1.
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Nice. Can you pick which fonts are displayed?
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Fred Greco said:
Nice. Can you pick which fonts are displayed?
The UI font is fixed, but the resource fonts can be changed through Tools > Program Settings.
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I really like the font. I would like to be able to change it if I wanted to, but I am happy with this one.
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Fred Greco said:
Nice. Can you pick which fonts are displayed?
On the left are the font options available to you.
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Thus far I'm quite pleased. Some of the changes and improvements have amazed me. I love the ability to drop notes all over the place, prioritize resources, set favorites, etc. The interlinear/tagged/paragraphed ESV put tingles down my spine. I love the tab interface along with the ease of adding tabs and such. Also love that when you open a commentary from the passage guide then go to the commentary window to add a tab, it automatically shows just the resources with info for the passage. I'm rambling. Again, I'm impressed.
The downside is overall things have been sluggish. This probably is due to indexing still being in progress and the program seems to be improving in performance. I've found a few places that hang for a bit before continuing on, I'll hold off on bug reports until indexing is through and I've played a bit more. No crashes for me thus far.
Great job, Logos. Look forward to seeing testing continue and I can't wait to see what this looks like when it makes its way to the Mac. Expose or no, I hope the interface remains quite similar to what we have here.
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So far, I like the layout, but I am still working to find things.
ONE CONCERN
My eyesight is not very good. It would be nice if the little icons and buttons stood out a bit more so it was easier to find them. Things like the little + signs for adding tabs are hard to see for me.0 -
Try the "Program Scaling" option in Settings, or hit Alt+D for the command bar and type "Set Program Scaling to 140%".
-- Bob
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hi
I love the new interface, easy to navigate, no problems speech reader is working brilliantly
my dyslexia is not having any problems with the layout, I can go straight into whatever I'm studying with a couple of resources open, with a few mouse clicks the power of the program is visible
it's brilliant,
mick[:)]
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MICHAEL PARRY-THOMAS said:
I love the new interface,
I agree I love the direct the UI is going. everything seems to be very easy to find. I'll guarantee you'll get the "everything is too different" crowd but it's well worth it. are you planning on putting everything under the files,tools, guides options are do you have more ribbons planned for later betas? I love the floating windows concept. This is going to be great on dual monitors!
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I'm amazed at the initial responses of how wonderful the interface is. I went to bed last night thinking "this program is anything but intuitive." This is not going to be for the casual user and I'm going to be hesitant to recommend it to others if I can't figure out how to navigate it myself.
Ok, so I'm a computer neophyte, with only 26 years experience working with computers. And, yes, I'm new to Bible software, I have only been testing, and working with Bible software. from various companies, on various platforms, for the past 20 years. So, I guess I'm just not as saavy as some of you more long time users.
Don't worry, I'm going to stick around and keep testing -- and I'll hack this program to death to figure out how to use it. But right off, I'm still a bit underwhelmed (them's my two cents after a couple hours of playing)
Blessings, Dale
Dell Vostro 1500
Win XP/Pro SP3
Intel Core 2 Duo, T7300 @ 2 GHz, 777 MHz, 2 GB RAM
NVidia GEForce 8300M GS
Blessings,
Dale Durnell
Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)
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I went to bed four hours ago, and had installed V4 a few hours before that. The program needs to come with a *WARNING*
"Indexing may take a *LONG* time. Go to bed, sleep late, take the family to breakfast, and go to a theme park while you leave the computer running, this may be done sometime tomorrow" ;-)Right now, my computer has been indexing for about six or seven hours (nearly 3000 resources), so in a Bible search, it still can't find "John the Baptist"
I'm sure it'll run much sweeter once the indexing is complete, but for now, it's a very slow process.
Is it, just perhaps, possible to install a rudimentary "index" file created at Logos that would already index the contents of (oh, let's say) Scholar's Gold, and a few of the other major boxed sets? It's just a thought, and may not solve the problem as that list would still have to be compared with the contents of the individual libraries out there.
Blessings, Dale
Dell Vostro 1500
Win XP/Pro SP3, MSIE 8
Intel Core 2 Duo, T7300 @ 2 GHz, 777 MHz, 2 GB RAM
NVidia GEForce 8300M GS
Blessings,
Dale Durnell
Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)
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Initial thoughts (BTW - I'm in the DVD group and will install it on my laptop):
1. Download/installation went flawless - ate dinner and enjoyed family time. :-)
2. Indexing went smoothly, if not at a snail's pace (I have approx. 1,000 resources): it took about 10 hours to complete (I did stop it for a few minutes once, but no crashes).
INTERFACE/NAVIGATION
1. Interface is MUCH improved. I like the scaling of the windows and the drag n drop ability (with preview of where you window can go potentially).
2. I'm so use to the right click when trying to associate (via NASB) to NAS27... can't seem to find the current equivalent. I do like the interlinear feature, however.
3. LOVE the handout feature. Can't wait for it to be polished up....but this looks to be a very "handy" feature ;-)
4. LOVE the right+click power menu. Learning its varied nuances....distinguishing between a "blue" highlighted word (from the interlinear) and the "gray" highlighted word, which allows for Bible Word Study, etc. addition.
5. MANY MORE, but my sons want breakfast....man, this is exciting!
Thanks LOGOS for letting me test.Mitch
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I ran a passage guide and it had the option of mixing in "word by word" and things normally reserved for the exegetical guide...now THAT'S COOL....
I'm liking this more and more. [:D]
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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I like the new interface; kind of like moving from Office 2003->2007. Shiny and polished, at first you can't find things but it soon starts to make sense and the old version looks clunky and outdated.
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-->I was a little underwhelmed myself; I guess I was expecting
something else. It seemed slow and, for me, it seems a little counter
intuitive. Where are the toolbars, Workspaces, etc., measure and weights. I
know if I keep looking I’ll find them??? But that will have to be next week,
Sunday preparation you know.[*-)]God Bless
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GeorgeKelleySr said:
Where are the toolbars, Workspaces, etc., measure and weights.
I may be falsely doing so, but I'm working under the assumption that these things will come in later releases. If this beta is supposed to have all the functionality of 4.0 then yes, there seems to be quite a bit missing. I can't seem to find the ESV reverse interlinears for instance.
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I hope so! As it is, it is not very usful.
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The ESV Interlinear is located on the ESV Bile toolbar?? and the Interlinear opens a pop-up window at the bottom. Sorry I sould have mentioned it in my previous message.
God Bless
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The GUI does have a nice look. Me, I've always had a leaning toward less esthetics and more available options, like my preference for Office 2003 over 2007. Hopefully the lack of manipulation of the program settings is due to it being the first beta.
Would still like a nice print function.
Can't wait to see the Sermon File Add-in in V4.
I love the Copy Bible Verse function now! Logos heard our requests and delivered there!
Looking forward to setting workspace options.
Overall for look, very nice! Just waiting on the functionality of V3 plus improvements prior to final opinion. But do look forward to the experience of playing with the V4 system during the beta process!
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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So is there a way to save a layout? Played with it, but did not see the option to save.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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FrankSauer said:
So is there a way to save a layout?
It automatically takes a snapshot of your layout when you click the Layouts dropdown. To save it permanently, just give it a name and it will get added it to your Named Layouts. Click the text or pencil icon and type something in.
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FrankSauer said:
So is there a way to save a layout? Played with it, but did not see the option to save.
Just replace the word "Snapshot" with the name you'd like to save the layout as. You can re-use a name, too; the list on the left will take you to the last-saved version of that name, or you can use the "find" box on the right to find all the earlier versions of that name in your history.
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Got it! Thanks
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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Mitch Davis said:
2. I'm so use to the right click when trying to associate (via NASB) to NAS27... can't seem to find the current equivalent. I do like the interlinear feature, however.
3. LOVE the handout feature. Can't wait for it to be polished up....but this looks to be a very "handy" feature ;-)
Open any two Bibles with "Interlinear" on their toolbar (ESV, NKJV, NASB, etc.) to the same passage, or one of those and the NA27 (assuming you have the 4.0 version). Selection in one of these should automatically cause a "sympathetic highlight" in the other. This replaces associated word and works automatically, even from English to English.
(The 4.0 original language ressources are in this extra download: http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/BetaSyntaxResources.lbsupd (561 MB))
-- Bob
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Philip Spitzer said:GeorgeKelleySr said:
Where are the toolbars, Workspaces, etc., measure and weights.
I may be falsely doing so, but I'm working under the assumption that these things will come in later releases. If this beta is supposed to have all the functionality of 4.0 then yes, there seems to be quite a bit missing. I can't seem to find the ESV reverse interlinears for instance.
This release contains all the features we plan to include in 4.0. Many features that 3.0 had that are missing (or don't have an equivalent) in 4.0 will be added soon after, in 4.1 or 4.2, and your input on what you miss most will help prioritize them.
(Weights and measures won't come back as a feature, but as a dataset, and that is being finished; it's not in this beta, but will be in 4.0.)
Reverse Interlinears are exposed directly within the texts they go with; use the "Interlinear" button on the toolbar of the resource.
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