USERVOICE review: User generated data: timelines

User generated data: timelines

Okay Faithlife brought about 8 timelines from Libronix across into Logos 4. Unfortunately I had close to 100 personal timelines in Libronix which could not be brought across. The reason? Faithlife did not consider users building XML files to be a supported feature. They considered it a hack. Now do I fit the profile of a hacker? Angel I mean their user agreement said nothing about not knowing or using XML. Confused How was I to know I wasn't supposed to add files to the directory?

Obviously, I have a vested interest in this request but given the slowness with which the new Timeline Tool has developed, especially for the special purposes that Bible study / Religious educators frequently need, I seriously believe that if XML files can still be processed, we should have the continued option to provide them. The alternative is to provide the users with a way to directly influence the growth of the Timeline data ... not surprisingly, I would want canon and manuscript information given priority as well as the tracing of apostolic succession for church hierarchy - Anglican, Lutheran, Orthodox, Catholic and several oddities. Others would want to focus on archeological discoveries, theologians for tracing the history of ideas .... Generic Bible dictionary information doesn't reflect the various needs of the users.

Now, if Logos cannot simply allow access to the viewer used by these grandfathered timelines and would have to provide a method for us to add events to the Timeline Tool, I would reconsider my support of this project.

However, others might well convince me that this is high priority even under the worst of implementation scenarios for Faithlife.

So if you have votes on this how would you use it? What is you minimum implementation?

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NB.Mick

Obviously, I have a vested interest in this request but given the slowness with which the new Timeline Tool has developed, especially for the special purposes that Bible study / Religious educators frequently need, I seriously believe that if XML files can still be processed, we should have the continued option to provide them.

I ran out of votes already, but here is the link for all those who haven't voted on uservoice and want to support to this request: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/508583-user-generated-data-timelines

EDIT: Ah, I see you now edited it in. Best wishes for additional votes!

Schumitinu

Obviously, I have a vested interest in this request but given the slowness with which the new Timeline Tool has developed, especially for the special purposes that Bible study / Religious educators frequently need, I seriously believe that if XML files can still be processed, we should have the continued option to provide them. The alternative is to provide the users with a way to directly influence the growth of the Timeline data

What exactly do you have in mind? Would this mean user would supply their timelines for FL to integrate into Logos? Or is it an option that allows users to add their own timelines into Logos? If FL adds them, should users be able to adjust them to their own needs?

Dean Stow

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/814671#Comment_814671

NB,

You can undo a vote and support this if you are so inclined. I found one of the suggestions I had two votes for and had not received many votes, removed one, and added it for this proposal.

Because:

it is a worthwhile proposal which I am on board with
MJ has earned a gift from all of us (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, LOGOS)
Investing in the ability for the community (especially those like MJ who are logical, organized, and well versed) to share information is a good thing

Thanks, MJ

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/814687#Comment_814687

What exactly do you have in mind? Would this mean user would supply their timelines for FL to integrate into Logos?

They would work similar to PB's. In libronix all one had to do was put a file in the correct XML in the right directory.

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/814818#Comment_814818

Earlier I was thinking that a graphical timeline editor would be something I would like to see in Logos. I assume historians have something so that they can use chronologies done by others (high, medium, low, for Egypt, Mesopotamia etc.) and also modify them and add their own chronologies and timepoints.

Schumitinu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/814818#Comment_814818

What exactly do you have in mind? Would this mean user would supply their timelines for FL to integrate into Logos?

They would work similar to PB's. In libronix all one had to do was put a file in the correct XML in the right directory.

Help my ignorance, what is the benefit of having the timelines in the XML format? Does that make them searchable?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/814933#Comment_814933

Help my ignorance, what is the benefit of having the timelines in the XML format? Does that make them searchable?

They display as in the screen shot of the initial post. XML is simply how one defines them so that they can display in that format. It is a standard way of defining timelines so it is easy for users who know XML to figure out what is needed ... which is why in Libronix 3 many had created they own timelines. And it is easy to teach others how to do.