Not all resources for The Precious and Sacred Writings of Martin Luther were downloaded?

instead of getting 14 resources I got 11

Likewise.

In addition, Luther’s Commentary on the First Twenty-Two Psalms only goes as far are Psalm 8:2. (It was supposed to be "This verse-by-verse commentary contains Luther’s detailed notes on the first 22 Psalms.")

My download of The Precious and Sacred Writings of Martin Luther came down tonight and instead of getting 14 resources I got 11. I checked my library and the three missing volumes were not there either, I did a restart and Update Resources with no luck. Has anyone gotten all 14? I am missing these 3:

Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer
Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings
Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles

Don, 

I think maybe the 14 vols were made into an eleven book bundle even by the pulisher of the edition logos reproduced. At least, if you look into the sample pages from the printed books (checked the first one each of "Luther's large Catechism" and "Luther's Two Catechisms") they show page numbers where you will find the respective content in the book "Luther's Catechetical writings" which has 300+ pages in the logois edition, not only 180 like on the product page.     

Thanks Mick, I am not sure...I look on Amazon and the Luther's Catechetical Writings is 388 pages. That said, I did see the Large Catechism in that book, but I can't find a TOC to see if it is usually there anyway. But I have not found Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings or Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles in any of the books that have downloaded.

In addition, Luther’s Commentary on the First Twenty-Two Psalms only goes as far are Psalm 8:2. (It was supposed to be "This verse-by-verse commentary contains Luther’s detailed notes on the first 22 Psalms.")

It seems that the book Logos introduced into the collection is only Vol 1 of Luther's Commentary on the first 22 psalms - the version on archive org contains the same text and number of pages we just received, i.e. ends with "enemy and avenger'. " on page 446. This is a 1903 printing.

However, it seems that the commentary was complete until Ps 22 in two volumes in 1826 and EDIT the 1903 publishers sliced that differently into probably three books - if they ever got around producing all of them. I think something got wrong with the scan or the print/binding of the scanned book of the 1903 version - who would break a commentary in the midst of the psalm? Anyway the forewords and intros in subsequent books of the series don't let me believe this was abandonded. Nevertheless, the text exists, since /EDIT The Vol 1 from 1826 goes until Ps 11. and Vol 2 of this series I saw has the rest of it plus a separate commentary on Ps 2. This seems to be basically the same translation that was republished in 1903.

That means, the product description offers something we didn't get yet - probably the Faithlife team is unaware of that.

 

I have not found Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings

The sample pages associated with that show page numbers 190-196 and are contained in Luther's Catechetical Writings exactly there, under the heading "The Law, Faith and Prayer"  It seems to be that the publisher once issued that book as a standalone work, but a part of Luther's Catechetical Writings - see https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.ah3hwl;view=1up;seq=7 

or Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles

this we may still be missing

EDIT: yes, we are missing this. It is No. I of the subseries of Church Postil Sermons on NT Epistles: Advent & Christmas (being No. 7 of the overall series) 

Even worse, Logos splitting up the one book on Catechetical Writing into three made them not only lose out on the second volume of the psalms commentary (can't believe it was an intentional break at 8:2) but they overlooked #14 of the series completely, the fifth part of the subseries on Church Postil Sermons on the Gospels: 13-26th Sunday after Trinity   

currently I see this as follows

EDIT 2: cross-posted in Lutheran products forum: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/125569.aspx  

Hello everyone,

I'm very sorry that there have been some problems with this collection. I'll investigate each problem that has been reported and post on this thread when I figure why we're missing these large chunks of material. Thanks for your patience!

Thanks Matthew for investigating into it!

Looking forward to see this resolved.

It is quite a relief to stumble on this thread.

I had thought may be my computer had a local problem with the download.

I now see that am not the only one who did not receive the complete resources as advertised.

Thanks in advance for a quick fix.

... I'll investigate each problem that has been reported and post on this thread ...

Thank you, Matthew. Appreciated.

I'm very sorry that there have been some problems with this collection. I'll investigate each problem that has been reported and post on this thread when I figure why we're missing these large chunks of material. Thanks for your patience!

Thanks Matthew

Hi Matthew, is there any news on the missing resources? Thanks for checking into this.

Don

Don--

Luther’s Catechetical Writings: God’s Call to Repentance and Faith, Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer, and Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings were combined into a single resource: Luther’s Catechetical Writings (LUTCATECHETWRIT)

Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles was packaged with Luther’s Church Postil: Gospels Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany (LTHRSCHRCHPPHNY)

I hope that helps and I'm sorry for any confusion.

Luther’s Catechetical Writings: God’s Call to Repentance and Faith, Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer, and Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings were combined into a single resource: Luther’s Catechetical Writings (LUTCATECHETWRIT)

yep

Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles was packaged with Luther’s Church Postil: Gospels Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany (LTHRSCHRCHPPHNY)

I don't think so. That resource only has gospel sermons, no epistles:

  

I think I shared an archive.org link to each of the missing resources above.

Luther’s Christmas Sermons: Epistles was packaged with Luther’s Church Postil: Gospels Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany (LTHRSCHRCHPPHNY)

I don't think so. That resource only has gospel sermons, no epistles:

   

I think I shared an archive.org link to each of the missing resources above.

Hmm...I'll look into it.

Luther’s Catechetical Writings: God’s Call to Repentance and Faith, Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer, and Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings were combined into a single resource: Luther’s Catechetical Writings (LUTCATECHETWRIT)

Besides the fact that combining resources like this has the potential to confuse users and references, I do wish that the Catechisms themselves were tagged with the BookOfConcord datatype for ease of reference with other versions/translations.

I have updates on a couple of the problems with the Sacred and Precious Writings of Martin Luther Collection.

1. Psalms Commentary

It does not appear that Lenker ever finished publishing his edition of the Psalms commentary. I cannot find any conclusive proof that he published the second volume. A sizable amount of anecdotal evidence suggests he did not.

However, Lenker's edition was a copy of Henry Cole's work that had been published about 75 years earlier. Lenker borrowed several volumes from Cole. Cole completed his work and we have the resources we need for Luther's Commentary on the First Twenty-Two Psalms from that.

We are going to add the original Cole edition to our Sacred and Precious Writings of Martin Luther Collection with no additional cost to those who own it. We will be updating the product to reflect this, but you will not receive the Psalms commentary until production is complete.


2. Church Postil Sermons on the Gospels: 13-26th Sunday after Trinity

This volume was inadvertently missed and was, unfortunately, not included in the collection.

We're going to place this on Community Pricing for bidding and produce it separately. It will be added to the collection in our internal systems.

Thanks Matthew. Is #2 above, the Church Postil Semons on the Gospels, the one that will give us the sermons for Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany?

We are going to add the original Cole edition to our Sacred and Precious Writings of Martin Luther Collection with no additional cost to those who own it. We will be updating the product to reflect this, but you will not receive the Psalms commentary until production is complete.

Thank you, Matthew. That's very good news, and I'm happy to wait until it's produced.

Thanks Matthew. Is #2 above, the Church Postil Semons on the Gospels, the one that will give us the sermons for Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany?

Don,

It is not. My colleague, Kyle, will be updating us on that item when he has a final solution.

Luther’s Catechetical Writings: God’s Call to Repentance and Faith, Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer, and Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings were combined into a single resource: Luther’s Catechetical Writings (LUTCATECHETWRIT)

Besides the fact that combining resources like this has the potential to confuse users and references, I do wish that the Catechisms themselves were tagged with the BookOfConcord datatype for ease of reference with other versions/translations.

1. We found a single book that combined all three works. It wouldn't affect citations and put them all in a single resource.
2. I agree about the milestones. I'll get that updated and pushed out.

Thanks Matthew. Is #2 above, the Church Postil Semons on the Gospels, the one that will give us the sermons for Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany?

We initially meant to remove the Christmas sermons on the epistles from the product description but failed to do so. Since we promised the resource, we will be producing it and providing it to everyone who purchased the collection as soon as it is complete. 

For reference this is the work: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_0BcUAAAAYAAJ

I may as well mention now that the table of contents mentions five sermons that are not actually included in the book. After much digging we've reached the conclusion that those pages simply don't exist in physical form any more. If any Luther experts out there know where those pages might be lurking we'd love to include those sermons as well.

Luther’s Catechetical Writings: God’s Call to Repentance and Faith, Luther’s Large Catechism: God’s Call to Repentance, Faith, and Prayer, and Luther’s Two Catechisms Explained by Himself: In Six Classic Writings were combined into a single resource: Luther’s Catechetical Writings (LUTCATECHETWRIT)

Besides the fact that combining resources like this has the potential to confuse users and references, I do wish that the Catechisms themselves were tagged with the BookOfConcord datatype for ease of reference with other versions/translations.

1. We found a single book that combined all three works. It wouldn't affect citations and put them all in a single resource.
2. I agree about the milestones. I'll get that updated and pushed out.

If you are not creating the confusion, that is certainly fine - and thank you for pushing to include milestones for your datatype.

Thanks guys for the update!

If you are not creating the confusion, that is certainly fine  

Ken, 

if you look into the internet copies of the single resources, which resemble the Logos product pages, you'll see that this was originally one work and the distinct resources kept the page numbers of the larger original (most probably existing printing material for the pages was re-used and just fitted with a new frontpage). 

thank you for pushing to include milestones for your datatype.

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For reference this is the work: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_0BcUAAAAYAAJ

I may as well mention now that the table of contents mentions five sermons that are not actually included in the book. After much digging we've reached the conclusion that those pages simply don't exist in physical form any more. If any Luther experts out there know where those pages might be lurking we'd love to include those sermons as well.

Hi Kyle, 

I'm no Luther expert but I did manage to find those sermons. In fact they show up in a few places. See here:

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/table-of-contents-volume-6-luthers.html

and also here: 

http://www.martinluthersermons.com/Luther_Lenker_Vol_6.pdf

It'll be great to get the problems with this collection ironed out. 

Colin 

We initially meant to remove the Christmas sermons on the epistles from the product description but failed to do so. Since we promised the resource, we will be producing it and providing it to everyone who purchased the collection as soon as it is complete. 

Hi Kyle, 

I just checked this resource - see here:

https://www.logos.com/product/54422/the-precious-and-sacred-writings-of-martin-luther

It is suggesting that I have to pay for Luther's Christmas sermons on the Epistles. I assume I'm not the only one in this situation. Could you look into this to ensure those of us who purchased the package which included this resource in the original description will indeed receive them? 

Thanks,

Colin

I should mention too that the Product Description for the Christmas Sermons on the Epistles is wrong, whether the 5 'missing' sermons are included or not. It says: 

"This volume contains three of Luther's practical sermons on the epistles and exhorts Christians to practice the lessons taught by their parents and pastors. Luther argues that Christian knowledge and zeal must work together to develop a balanced Christianity."

There are 12 sermons in the complete version of the book. There are 193 pages in the incomplete edition. Has this not been updated with the other 5 sermons? 

Colin

We initially meant to remove the Christmas sermons on the epistles from the product description but failed to do so. Since we promised the resource, we will be producing it and providing it to everyone who purchased the collection as soon as it is complete. 

It is suggesting that I have to pay for Luther's Christmas sermons on the Epistles. I assume I'm not the only one in this situation. 

Kyle, just as FYI, I'm seeing the same designation for this resource as Colin. Thanks in advance!

Grace and peace. <><

For reference this is the work: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_0BcUAAAAYAAJ

I may as well mention now that the table of contents mentions five sermons that are not actually included in the book. After much digging we've reached the conclusion that those pages simply don't exist in physical form any more. If any Luther experts out there know where those pages might be lurking we'd love to include those sermons as well.

Hi Kyle, 

I'm no Luther expert but I did manage to find those sermons. In fact they show up in a few places. See here:

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/table-of-contents-volume-6-luthers.html

and also here: 

http://www.martinluthersermons.com/Luther_Lenker_Vol_6.pdf

It'll be great to get the problems with this collection ironed out. 

Colin 

I forgot to thank you earlier but these materials worked perfectly. Thank you so much.

We initially meant to remove the Christmas sermons on the epistles from the product description but failed to do so. Since we promised the resource, we will be producing it and providing it to everyone who purchased the collection as soon as it is complete. 

Hi Kyle, 

I just checked this resource - see here:

https://www.logos.com/product/54422/the-precious-and-sacred-writings-of-martin-luther

It is suggesting that I have to pay for Luther's Christmas sermons on the Epistles. I assume I'm not the only one in this situation. Could you look into this to ensure those of us who purchased the package which included this resource in the original description will indeed receive them? 

Thanks,

Colin

Thank you for pointing that out. No, you should not have to pay for Luther's Christmas Sermons. We just updated the collection to fix this discrepancy. Please let me know if you still notice this in 24 hours.

I should mention too that the Product Description for the Christmas Sermons on the Epistles is wrong, whether the 5 'missing' sermons are included or not. It says: 

"This volume contains three of Luther's practical sermons on the epistles and exhorts Christians to practice the lessons taught by their parents and pastors. Luther argues that Christian knowledge and zeal must work together to develop a balanced Christianity."

There are 12 sermons in the complete version of the book. There are 193 pages in the incomplete edition. Has this not been updated with the other 5 sermons? 

Colin

Yup. It'll be 12 sermons. I've passed this along to the marketing team and they'll get the description updated.

Lastly I should mention, Luther's Christmas Sermons should be finished by the end of September and available to you in early October.

Thanks for your help.

 

Kyle,

Thanks very much for such a swift, comprehensive and thoroughly satisfying answer! 

Colin

Thank you for the update, Kyle.

No, you should not have to pay for Luther's Christmas Sermons. We just updated the collection to fix this discrepancy. Please let me know if you still notice this in 24 hours.

Still says that I need to pay for the "update" [:(]

No, you should not have to pay for Luther's Christmas Sermons. We just updated the collection to fix this discrepancy. Please let me know if you still notice this in 24 hours.

Still says that I need to pay for the "update" 

I'll look into it for you. 

I took a moment to check your account and you own a license to Luther's Christmas Sermons. Once its finished you will have access to it without having to pay.

I don't know enough about how pricing is works to know why its saying you need to pay something for the update so I'll have to ask on that point.

Could you post a screenshot of what it is displaying for you? Thanks.

Could you post a screenshot of what it is displaying for you?

Much appreciated Kyle - also given that I believe this is included in Lutheran Base Packages it may also mean my dynamic price there is slightly out also [:)]

Anyway when I go to https://www.logos.com/product/54422/the-precious-and-sacred-writings-of-martin-luther 

I get:

And checking at the bottom I see:

hth

Could you post a screenshot of what it is displaying for you?

Much appreciated Kyle - also given that I believe this is included in Lutheran Base Packages it may also mean my dynamic price there is slightly out also [:)]

Anyway when I go to https://www.logos.com/product/54422/the-precious-and-sacred-writings-of-martin-luther 

I get:

And checking at the bottom I see:

hth

Could you post a screenshot of what it is displaying for you?

Much appreciated Kyle - also given that I believe this is included in Lutheran Base Packages it may also mean my dynamic price there is slightly out also 

Thanks Glenn. That was helpful. We made a change that hopefully works. Please let me know if its working for you now.

Please let me know if its working for you now.

All good for me now - many thanks [:D]

Please let me know if its working for you now.

All good for me now - many thanks 

Great to hear! Thanks for bringing it to our attention.