Logos on Linux

"We will not be developing a desktop/offline application for Linux.
https://app.logos.com continues to improve and will be our solution for any platform that supports a web browser." [1] - Bradley Grainger

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Which is ONLY available by paid subscription, and ONLY available while online. This is not opening up your library (which must be purchased) to the largest audience possible.

Please consider one of these better options that could be used in a future version of LOGOS:

1. AVOID frameworks that are NOT multi-platform (ie: using Internet Explorer components [report display engine]). Instead, use available multi-platform options like Firefox or Chromium.

2. A two pronged system vaguely reminiscent of RedHat's setup. You would have your in-house proprietary library and extended features (all purchasable items like you have already), and then they would plug into an open sourced GUI that had only basic features (like your Core Engine only has basic features). You could maintain executive control over the project, but by making the core/GUI available to the vast range of multi-platform programmers you would in essence be gaining thousands of hours of free labor. The difference here though, is that everyone benefits.

3. Leave what you have as-is, EXCEPT: create API hooks that would allow an open source implementation of the GUI to function from various platforms.

If you have an interest in using Logos from within Linux, please vote here:

https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/17889583-logos-on-linux

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Dan Francis

You may be tilting at windmills. I wish you luck but considering that the previous uesr voice request for a linux version was soundly rejected and it appears that Faithlife sees the internet based system as the way of the future I am left to believe you may be wasting your time. I do hope you will have some luck but I don't see it happening. Accordance 12 is running ok on LINUX but it is not officially supported. Again they say they do not officially support it because the user base is far to small. FL has shown time and again that they have their plans and tend to stick to them. Occasionally they have made changes but usually when they say NO as in this case there seems very firm on sticking to the decisions.

-Dan

Bill Anderson

"We will not be developing a desktop/offline application for Linux.
https://app.logos.com continues to improve and will be our solution for any platform that supports a web browser." [1] - Bradley Grainger

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Which is ONLY available by paid subscription, and ONLY available while online. This is not opening up your library (which must be purchased) to the largest audience possible.

Please consider one of these better options that could be used in a future version of LOGOS:

1. AVOID frameworks that are NOT multi-platform (ie: using Internet Explorer components [report display engine]). Instead, use available multi-platform options like Firefox or Chromium.

2. A two pronged system vaguely reminiscent of RedHat's setup. You would have your in-house proprietary library and extended features (all purchasable items like you have already), and then they would plug into an open sourced GUI that had only basic features (like your Core Engine only has basic features). You could maintain executive control over the project, but by making the core/GUI available to the vast range of multi-platform programmers you would in essence be gaining thousands of hours of free labor. The difference here though, is that everyone benefits.

3. Leave what you have as-is, EXCEPT: create API hooks that would allow an open source implementation of the GUI to function from various platforms.

If you have an interest in using Logos from within Linux, please vote here:

https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/17889583-logos-on-linux

Keith,

Welcome to the forums. There is a very lengthy thread on this that I would encourage you to read and post to instead of to this thread; You can find that thread here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/121.aspx?PageIndex=1

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879108#Comment_879108

Occasionally they have made changes but usually when they say NO as in this case there seems very firm on sticking to the decisions.

Decision could be changed if open source use changes to provide appropriate business motivation. Currently revenue projection from open source application is substantially less than expense of porting user interface. Profit = Revenue - Expenses.

Longer reply in Logos 6 and Linux thread. Android Apps can be used on Linux => https://www.linux.com/learn/installing-android-apps-linux-archon Faithlife has several Android Apps in the Google Play Store => Frequently Asked Questions

Apple Software adds a proprietary user interface to open source BSD. Purchasers of Apple hardware provided profitable incentive for Faithlife development of applications and mobile apps.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879279#Comment_879279

Thanks for pointing that out KS4J, I wasn't trying to be a wet blanket just wanted to temper his expectations over his expectations. I do hope one day the windows edition can function in wine on Linux... that said Unless FL choose to do a whole new coding similar to 4.0 I am not sure it will ever be compatible.

-Dan

Ian Hodgson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879279#Comment_879279

Tried installing as a Chrome app (via Archos Packager) but it didn't work. Gave me some errors. Shame, I was hopeful there. Maybe someone can do sth with these errors?

Ian

ErrorsClear all

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Received a crash
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Crash reporting not enabled in Chrome. Please enable it.
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