Calling all you Greek Scholars...Subjective Genitive in Phil 3:9...

Wallace's treatment of this issue is pretty good in his Syntax (Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics) but not extremely long. Other than commentaries (which may not even deal with the argument for the Subjective Gen) I can't recall any Logos resources right now. After church I'll dig into my seminary notes to see if I can recommend any further readings.

Robert

There are a lot of resources that you can use to delve into this. Without knowing what you have in your library, it's difficult to know how helpful using the exegetical guide tool would be. When I ran the  exegetical on my own resources I turned up the following.

The important thing to remember in Word Studies is that the context is vitally important and that is what translators use to render not just words but phrases. Hence some talk of Christ's faith(fulness) while others refer to faith in Christ. I'll happily take this further if you want. There are several good commentaries eg New International Greek Testament Commentary and Word Biblical Commentary which both deal directly with the Greek text. The Word Commentary is particularly useful in that it gives a very full bibliography at the beginning of each chapter (including Journal articles)

Every blessing in your studies.

Robert Pavich said:

I think there is a lesson here about self sufficiency...  

I would disagree, we are not like a "worldly forum" where we try and get oneupmanship, our forums are much more about community and encouraging others, L4 is such a powerful hammer no one can know how to fully weild it, thankfully in the body/community we have folks who understand bits of it better than others, and who are willing to share.

Personally I am glad when questions like this come up because (being a layman who occassionaly preaches) I learn SOOOOO much from the replies.

no chastisement from me, just thanks

Kevin Becker said:

Wallace's treatment of this issue is pretty good in his Syntax (Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics) but not extremely long. Other than commentaries (which may not even deal with the argument for the Subjective Gen) I can't recall any Logos resources right now. After church I'll dig into my seminary notes to see if I can recommend any further readings.

I don't think I can add, Logos-resource wise, to these recommendations. Search your library for πιστις Χριστοῦ (exclude bibles, they will clutter up your results). Some proponents of the subjective reading (which I find persuasive) are Hays; Longenecker; and Martyn. This debate comes up most fiercely (it seems) in Galatians 3:1-4:11. Hays does have a book out on this debate which includes counterpoint by Dunn but it's not a Logos book.

Robert Pavich said:

I was surprised at how little there was on it...I'll keep digging.

Theological journals are a great place to find these kinds of answers. I don't know what you have access to, but here are some I came across in a quick search of EBSCOHost that look relevant.

Schenck, Kenneth. "2 Corinthians and the Pistis Christou debate." Catholic Biblical Quarterly 70, no. 3 (July 1, 2008): 524.

Harrisville, Roy A. "Before pistis Christou: the objective genitive as good Greek." Novum testamentum 48, no. 4 (January 1, 2006): 353.

Matlock, R Barry. "Detheologizing the pistis Christou debate: Cautionary remarks from a lexical semantic perspective." Novum testamentum 42, no. 1 (January 1, 2000): 1-263.

Dunn, James D G. "Once more, Pistis Christou." Society of Biblical Literature Seminar Papers no. 30 (January 1, 1991): 730.

Hays, Richard B. "Pistis and Pauline christology : what is at stake?." Society of Biblical Literature Seminar Papers no. 30 (January 1, 1991): 714.

Harrisville, Roy A. "Pistis Christou : Witness of the Fathers." Novum testamentum 36, no. 3 (July 1, 1994): 233.

"Pistis Christou: reading Paul in a new paradigm." Andrews University Seminary Studies 40, no. 1 (March 1, 2002): 37.

Matlock, R Barry. "PISTIS in Galatians 3.26: neglected evidence for 'faith in Christ'?." New Testament Studies 49, no. 3 (July 1, 2003): 433.

Choi, Hung-sik. "Pistis in Galatians 5:5-6: neglected evidence for the faithfulness of Christ." Journal of Biblical Literature 124, no. 3 (September 1, 2005): 467.

Hunn, Debbie. "Pistis Xristou in Galatians 2:16: clarification from 3:1-6." Tyndale Bulletin 57, no. 1 (January 1, 2006): 23.

Foster, Paul. "The first contribution to the pistis Chrstoy debate: a study of Ephesians 3.12." Journal for the Study of the New Testament no. 85 (March 1, 2002): 75.

Matlock, R Barry. "The rhetoric of pistis in Paul: Galatians 2:16, 3:22, Romans 3:22, and Philippians 3:9." Journal for the Study of the New Testament 30, no. 2 (December 1, 2007): 173.

Stubbs, David L. "The shape of soteriology and the pistis Christou debate." Scottish Journal of Theology 61, no. 2 (January 1, 2008): 137.

Lindsay, Dennis R. "Works of law, hearing of faith and pistis Christoy in Galatians 2:16-3:5." Stone-Campbell Journal 3, no. 1 (March 1, 2000): 79-63.

See also Tom Schreiner's comments on Romans 3:21-26 in his BECNT volume on Romans, 181-186.

It's the ATLA search database that allows you to search through every major theological journal available. A good portion of the results allow you to download them in pdf format.. Theological libraries have the database. I have access to it on my computer. I'll search through and see what I can find.

University libraries pay for it. But I have never heard of an individual doing so. It is probably ridiculously expensive. Plus it takes about a year for new articles to get into it.