Page numbers while reading

Rev. Joshua Andrews
Rev. Joshua Andrews Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a way to see the actual page numbers while reading a logos resource? I do not want to have to highlight a text, copy, and paste in a word processing program to find out what page I am on. Is there anything like the kindle where it would show an actual page number at the bottom of the screen?

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Most (but not all) Logos Edition resources have page numbers. Vyrso titles do not. To see the page number, you must turn this feature on in the resource's visual filter menu (three circles icon). 

    This is for desktop. 

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  • Is there a way to see the actual page numbers while reading a logos resource?

    Welcome [:D]

    If resource has Page Numbers (or other indexes), the location can be shown next to resource icon:

    Visual Filter menu (three circles) has "Show page numbers" that can be checked in resources with page numbers for the number to appear in the text.

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  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Most (but not all) Logos Edition resources have page numbers...

    The number of resources that don't has been a long-standing frustration for me. It's a piece of basic information that you want to provide when citing a source in a paper.

  • Steven Veach
    Steven Veach Member Posts: 274 ✭✭

    EastTN said:

    alabama24 said:

    Most (but not all) Logos Edition resources have page numbers...

    The number of resources that don't has been a long-standing frustration for me. It's a piece of basic information that you want to provide when citing a source in a paper.

    I get that the conventional practice is using page numbers, but I find that I pretty much exclusively use digital references now. I can't remember the last book I cited (or even read) that was a print book. Ebooks in readers (epub, mobi, etc) are terrible because the page numbers change based on display features. PDFs are great because they preserve the page number based on the edition (but if it is a doc file turned into a pdf then all bets are off).

    I'm not certain why academia has not already gone to dropping the requirement for an actual page number and, instead, opted for the chapter, section, paragraph standard on the grounds of ubiquity. I currently have multiple external ebooks that I imported into Logos but the page numbers did not survive the trip. So, if I cite extensively from any of these sources I either risk non convention with the c/s/p standard or I have to pull up the external ebook and copy/past/search each snippet quote just to find the page number in question. Direct quotes are easy, of course for me or the reader alike (if using digital that is). If you want to see it just copy and paste into search to find the context. If it's an indirect quote, then maybe in the footnote the section can be added in lieu of the page number as well as c/s/p (finding the chapter/section/paragraph can be time consuming).  

    It's not bad work but if you're talking 100 citations (or 500) then it can get a little unwieldy.  

    To my surprise, though, there is still a significant portion of the global population that still uses print books. A large subset of that still use print books exclusively. That's kind of mind boggling. ;-)

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    I'm not certain why academia has not already gone to dropping the requirement for an actual page number and, instead, opted for the chapter, section, paragraph standard on the grounds of ubiquity

    er .. ah.. academic has never required actual page numbers as documentary evidence does not need to be printed - personal letter, handwritten manuscripts, inscriptions on steles ... and most of academic citation standards have standards for unpaged electronic formats.  It is individual professors and/or institutions that make it hard to cite electronic formats especially of items originally published in dead tree format.

    To my surprise, though, there is still a significant portion of the global population that still uses print books.

    No surprise to me. I and many of my friends are mixed use ... do you want the experience of vinyl or digital? both have their fans. Same with electronic vs. physical books.

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  • Steven Veach
    Steven Veach Member Posts: 274 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    er .. ah.. academic has never required actual page numbers as documentary evidence does not need to be printed.....and most of academic citation standards have standards for unpaged electronic formats.  It is individual professors and/or institutions that make it hard to cite electronic formats especially of items originally published in dead tree format....do you want the experience of vinyl or digital? both have their fans. Same with electronic vs. physical books.

    I agree, the formatting guides have options for citing electronic sources. But all the professors I've ever had were adamant, just like you said, if it once had a page number you have to cite the page number. If the whole of academia went with a ubiquitous citation scheme (i.e. how to cite digital) then it wouldn't matter if you were in print or digital. Though, the digital citation format is admittedly not as quick as just turning to a page in a print book. 

    What's vinyl? 

    ;-)