Thanks Phil. I was under the impression that you guys were cancelling orders that are also covered in the journal bundles. I have cancelled the one outstanding order!
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Reuben Helmuth: Gao Lu:What if we paid for Masters and then got the goodies as they were shipped? Now I LIKE that suggestion! Say we'd authorize Logos to charge our cards immediately (rather than waiting until everything's ready to ship), then we'd get each set (or individual resource) as it's ready to ship. Let's all beg Logos to allow this!
Gao Lu:What if we paid for Masters and then got the goodies as they were shipped?
Now I LIKE that suggestion! Say we'd authorize Logos to charge our cards immediately (rather than waiting until everything's ready to ship), then we'd get each set (or individual resource) as it's ready to ship.
Let's all beg Logos to allow this!
Great idea...would require massive confidence and agreement to the process on all sides due to scope and production cost. But if feasible for Faithlife & agreeable to users, would several issues at once. FL is surely hesitant to have us pay for what has not been shipped, but:
1) similar arrangements exist in many Base package purchases where upfront payment occurs for future shipment;
2) FL states these Journal Bundles will be produced (and cash flow to do so might improve); and
3) many individual resources are well advanced, showing considerable overall progress that might be merged this way.
Maybe a great time for an exception. In any case, thanks to Faithlife for the previous explanation of their priority and process so far. <><
Re: Prepay before ship for Journal Bundles
Thanks, Phil. Sounds like the production schedule is moving along and this idea would make only slight difference in any case.
Thanks Phil - looking forward to having the master Journal Bundle in my library :)
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Phil,
What about volume 01-54? Will these be updated to the newest Logos standard? I notice that they lack covers in My Library. Moreover, why were these not included in these new Logos collections? I am sure some of your newer customers might enjoy having the first 54 volumes in their library.
Hello Mark
I have L6 Platinum, I checked my Library and I have both of the following:
Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (78 vols.)
Biblical Archaeologist / Near Eastern Archaeology (1992–2011) (20 vols.) (74 issues)
I did not order them as a Pre-Pub, but they were part of my Base Package.
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OK, Phil. I think I'm still at the gaming table here. But I'd assume you're busy, so ignore this entry. Just 'playing my hand'.
- I'm canceling my about-to-ship pre-pubs. That would be due to the larger bundles. Makes sense.
- I now have a Academic bundle, which I had increased my bid to a Master bundle. I now have both. I don't really need the Master, but it's a good deal.
My risk (no offense), is that if a single obstruse (sp?) journal gets sidelined (maybe a contract tangle, who knows, life happens), then in theory I don't get journals period. That is, until the bundle ships FDU (future date unknown).
With that in mind, I think I'll keep both bids, since I don't know which one might go FDU (though there's a commitment, Bob repeatedly taught us .... Logos doesn't do promises).
And for anyone wondering, no I don't gamble. But I enjoy calculating risk (and journals). So, I'm guessing no neato journals for the time being. (Though I'd of thought paying the bundle now would be favorable to Logos).
"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."
Thanks Phil, Lee, and Robert for your helpful comments
Denise:I now have a Academic bundle, which I had increased my bid to a Master bundle. I now have both. I don't really need the Master, but it's a good deal.
Sounds like you have a pre-order for both Academic and Master. You should know that Master includes everything in Academic. So make sure you cancel one or the other before we ship.
Keith Larson:What about volume 01-54?
Good question. We may not have been able to license these yet.
Keith Larson:Will these be updated to the newest Logos standard?
If they're third party content, they probably won't get updated. Once we secure a license and do our own edition, we'll update them.
Keith Larson:Moreover, why were these not included in these new Logos collections?
See the answer to the first question.
I'll check on these and see if I can get you a better answer.
The Archaeologist bundle looks nice. Thanks for mentioning it Denise.
Thanks Phil
But what about someone who like me has L6 Portfolio , all three for these journal sets on Pre-Pub and the Master Journal Bundle on Pre-Pub.
My "guess" is that the Portfolio will "Trump" the order for two journals - the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (78 vols.) and the Biblical Archaeologist / Near Eastern Archaeology (1992–2011) (20 vols.) (74 issues) - so I will not get charged for the individuals journal sets as I "already own" them.
However my main concern is the Journal of Cuneiform Studies (19 vols.) which isn't part of Portfolio so I believe I would be charged for the Pre-Pub and at a higher rate than as part of the Master Journal Bundle (1,280+ vols.)
Is that a correct understanding - and what is my best action.
Regards Kevin
Kevin A Lewis: Thanks Phil But what about someone who like me has L6 Portfolio , all three for these journal sets on Pre-Pub and the Master Journal Bundle on Pre-Pub. My "guess" is that the Portfolio will "Trump" the order for two journals - the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (78 vols.) and the Biblical Archaeologist / Near Eastern Archaeology (1992–2011) (20 vols.) (74 issues) - so I will not get charged for the individuals journal sets as I "already own" them. However my main concern is the Journal of Cuneiform Studies (19 vols.) which isn't part of Portfolio so I believe I would be charged for the Pre-Pub and at a higher rate than as part of the Master Journal Bundle (1,280+ vols.) Is that a correct understanding - and what is my best action. Regards Kevin
Kevin, as long as getting JCS this month is not a high priority, I would delete all three from your 'Account > Orders > Open Pre-Pubs' listing. And your reasoning is exactly correct: BASOR and BA/NEA will not bill in any case, since you "own" them in Portfolio, but JCS will bill at $99.95 - certainly a higher rate per unit than they would warrant in the Master Journal Bundle. Grace and peace. <><
Robert: Kevin, as long as getting JCS this month is not a high priority, I would delete all three from your 'Account > Orders > Open Pre-Pubs' listing. And your reasoning is exactly correct: BASOR and BA/NEA will not bill in any case, since you "own" them in Portfolio, but JCS will bill at $99.95 - certainly a higher rate per unit than they would warrant in the Master Journal Bundle. Grace and peace. <><
On this basis and Phil's response Yesterday - which appear consistent and match my guess/understanding - I have cancelled my Pre-Pub orders for each of these three journals.
Blessings.
Great - and thanks again to Phil!
For those who enjoy the subject density and variety of journals, the bundles (when complete) will certainly be excellent values. As an example, many have noted that the Master Journal Bundle includes the worthwhile "First Things" (248 issues), which alone is a new Pre-Pub at $249.95. Blessings to you also!
I hope it will be shipped today
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It is not prepub anymore, but I still cant download.
same here. I wonder if it shipped prior to today for those of us with portfolio?
yup
already downloaded some time back.
I only have Platinum, and I got these back in Oct/Nov...apparently Logos has some resources completed, but are not releasing these to the "general public." Not sure why that is the case. I remember back in November that people were talking about getting the "Dictionary of Christian Antiquities" but I didn't get it....apparently it was downloaded only by those with Diamond or above. I have had it pre-ordered forever, but the Pre-Pub still hasn't been released to the rest of us.
Charlene