Confused by different search results

I did a basic Bible search in the 1900 KJV with <Lemma = lbs/el/καί> and came up with 9272 in 5225 verses. When doing a Bible Word Study on the same lemma I get 5641 hits in the "Lemma" section and 5163 hits in the "Translation" section. Is this an error in Logos or are these different numbers indication different things? Thanks!

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Dave Hooton

The BWS Translation is reporting verses and not hits but it still varies from search results. I don't know what the Lemma section is doing! Even if I look at a word with fewer occurrences - τίς - I can't work it out (esp. Lemma section).

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Lankford Oxendine

Thanks for taking a look Dave.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

The BWS Translation is reporting verses and not hits but it still varies from search results

It reports the count of verses that have a translation. Untranslated instances of the word are not counted in this section.

I don't know what the Lemma section is doing!

I'm investigating this.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

I don't know what the Lemma section is doing!

I'm investigating this.

It's (incorrectly) double-counting some verses. This will be fixed in an upcoming release.

I'm also not certain that that's the most useful thing it could be doing, so I've opened another case to inquire whether it should show the number of instances not just the number of verses.

Dave Hooton

It's (incorrectly) double-counting some verses. This will be fixed in an upcoming release.

I'm also not certain that that's the most useful thing it could be doing, so I've opened another case to inquire whether it should show the number of instances not just the number of verses.

Thanks, Bradley

Claude Brown Jr

I don't know what the Lemma section is doing!

I'm investigating this.

It's (incorrectly) double-counting some verses. This will be fixed in an upcoming release.

I'm also not certain that that's the most useful thing it could be doing, so I've opened another case to inquire whether it should show the number of instances not just the number of verses.

Thanks!!!

Rick Brooks

I certainly hope the decision will be made to count the instances rather than just verses in future revisions of the software.

Clinton Branscombe

I can confirm that the Logos 6 is reporting verses not instances. Here is how to see this. I searched on the lemma for "worry" in Matt 6:25 using NIV. In Logos 5, the results showed 19 hits. In Logos 6 it now shows 17 hits. Yet a perusal of the results reveals 19 hits because two verses (Mt 6:34 & 1 Cor 7:34) each have two. "Worry" occurs 12, not 11 times and "concern" occurs 6 not 5 times. ("Anxious" is accurately reported.)

To add to the confusion, when you click on the graph to get the distribution of the term, it does not show 17 (as the chart claims), but 19 times (7 + 5 + 5 + 2). This is very confusing behavior.