Surface 3

Yesterday Microsoft announced the Surface 3, set to come out next month. I'm considering the the 128gb model with 4gb RAM.

Any thoughts on how well/poorly Logos 6 would run on this device & processor?

My current laptop is a Core i7-4510 with 8gb RAM & an SSD, and Logos is pretty snappy.

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Linval London

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/723458#Comment_723458

I'd be very interested to know how the Surface 3 (mine came in today) compares to the new retina MacBook.

How have you found your Surface 3? Is the Logos operation about what you expected?

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724017#Comment_724017

I'd be very interested to know how the Surface 3 (mine came in today) compares to the new retina MacBook.

How have you found your Surface 3? Is the Logos operation about what you expected?

Good question. I'm also looking forward to Kevin Purcell's review. Hopefully in the next few days.

Chris Gardner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724024#Comment_724024

I am really looking forward to hearing about it as well.

MJD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724055#Comment_724055

I just loaded up my Surface 3 and it took forever to install Logos 6. ** Remember you need to change the time out settings otherwise the tablet will shut down and you will think it is still loading.** I know first hand. [:$]

I just started indexing the library, it is a slow process.

I have been running an Apple Air2 and it was limited because it ran the Logos App.

I am hopping my 128GB SSD and 4GB RAM Surface 3 will be adequate...

David Wanat

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724058#Comment_724058

I have been running an Apple Air2 and it was limited because it ran the Logos App.

Is there problems with the Air 2? Or do you just mean limited in the sense of tablet limitations?

R. Mansfield

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724058#Comment_724058

My Surface 3 has been indexing for more than 24 hours :-(

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724060#Comment_724060

I have been running an Apple Air2 and it was limited because it ran the Logos App.

Is there problems with the Air 2? Or do you just mean limited in the sense of tablet limitations?

For clarification, I think you mean iPad Air2. If that is what you meant to type it's not the same. The iOS app and the desktop app are separate things. Now, if you intended to say Apple MacBook Air then that would be different since they would both be the desktop app.

MJD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724085#Comment_724085

iPad Air2 ran off of the app and was limited because of the app's limitations. [Y]

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724088#Comment_724088

Thanks for clarifying which device you were talking about. [:)]

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724105#Comment_724105

I've installed Logos 6 on the Surface 3. After doing the quick install that shouldn't require an indexing or downloading Logos indexed anyway. It took about 8 hours, which is clearly not a full indexing.

It takes a full minute to launch and every action comes with a delay or lag of a second at least. Sometimes it's more like 2 or 3 seconds.

I can use Logos, but it's kind of painful.

By comparison all of the other programs I use run fast and smooth.

David Wanat

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724149#Comment_724149

Thanks for the review. This may sound like it falls into the "Why would you want to do that?" category, but how does the reading mode compare to the typical tablet (Android iPad) reading?

MJD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724186#Comment_724186

I am frustrated with the performance of my 4GB RAM Surface3, I like my iOS app better at this point. Very clunky. Death of an expectation!😫

David Wanat

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724206#Comment_724206

Sorry it turned out badly for you. I think, based on what I am hearing, I'll look into other options besides the Surface 3

Gary Butner, Th.D.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712815#Comment_712815

I spent a long time investigating the various laptops, and decided to go with the Surface pro 3 or Samsung Np940x3g K04US - Low Prices Great Service Selection. I settled on the Samsung.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724206#Comment_724206

I've been thinking about this same decision and I think if I were to go for the Surface 3 (which sounds nicer in some respects) I'd only use it to connect remotely to my home computer which I could run Logos on. I wouldn't try to run Logos natively on the Surface 3. I might end up deciding to go this route. I already have a laptop which runs Logos pretty well, so I don't need a laptop replacement.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724225#Comment_724225

I've been thinking about this same decision and I think if I were to go for the Surface 3 (which sounds nicer in some respects) I'd only use it to connect remotely to my home computer which I could run Logos on.

That's an interesting approach.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724206#Comment_724206

I am frustrated with the performance of my 4GB RAM Surface3, I like my iOS app better at this point. Very clunky. Death of an expectation!😫

Bummer. I guess if I needed something ultra portable for running Office I would think more about getting one, but I already have a low-end laptop that can do all of that. Not ultra portable, but functional. Maybe I'll look at the Surface Pro more closely. Thanks for the report.

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724225#Comment_724225

I'd only use it to connect remotely to my home computer which I could run Logos on.

Strange approach. That totally negates the main function the Windows tablets can laud over the other options. ...The ability to have an ultra portable copy of ones library available off the grid. I am disappointed that they are asking so much money for a unit that apparently gives little improvement over the earlier Atom offerings. I will hang on to the Dell Venue 8 Pro till something better comes down the pike. i still maintain the market is there. I use the Dell every week for a Bible study group. It is totally functional in that setting.

Mark Ziebold

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724273#Comment_724273

Surface pro 3 runs it beautifully. Never any issue with performance and indexing occurs in a fraction of the time as compared to my laptop.

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724280#Comment_724280

I don't think remote control of a desktop running Logos 6 would be any faster than Logos 6 on Surface 3. Only reason to do that would be to keep from downloading a full library, which Logos really needs to fix.

customers want to limit downloads
speeds up the install/index process
reduces the burden on their servers

The only drawback is the coding which is likely the issue. They're trying to go in so many directions I'm sure it's hard to do all they want and we want to do that they'd be willing to do.

Greg Gray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724280#Comment_724280

Surface pro 3 runs it beautifully. Never any issue with performance and indexing occurs in a fraction of the time as compared to my laptop.

I have the same experience on the i3 sp3.

JAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724273#Comment_724273

i still maintain the market is there. I use the Dell every week for a Bible study group. It is totally functional in that setting.

I concur.

The Atom based WinBook tablet I picked up, thanks to a notice in another earlier thread, does not handle logos like my Core2Duo 2010 MacBook Air which in turn handles Logos less well than my Quad Core i7 Dell. All fill the role I've given them, though lightweight versions of the desktop applications would perhaps help sweeten things. It seems to me that trimming some of the features might be easier than developing a new application - though not as ideal.

Kevin has succinctly stated the features that need to be added to the existing desktop applications in order to begin to meet the needs of many users.

Erik

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/724211#Comment_724211

I spent a long time investigating the various laptops, and decided to go with the Surface pro 3 or Samsung Np940x3g K04US - Low Prices Great Service Selection. I settled on the Samsung.

Gary, if you are considering the Samsung, I would suggest also considering the Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro or Yoga 3 Pro. You can have the same specs as the Samsung but with the option to use them in tablet mode as well. Lenovo is blowing out the Yoga 2 Pro on everyone's favorite auction site now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Yoga-2-Pro-13-3-QHD-Multi-touch-Intel-i7-8GB-RAM-256-GB-SSD-Win/151666491845?rmvSB=true