Anyone familiar with the status of the More Old Testament Pseudepigrapha Project?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2015 2:35 PM

https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/divinity/rt/moreoldtestamentpseudepigrapha/

This project is to produce a supplemental volume to Charlesworth. It is out of St. Andrews University but I can't discover if they are approaching a finished product. Faithlife should be watching this closely.

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 2:51 AM
https://www.logos.com/product/49494/old-testament-pseudepigrapha-more-noncanonical-scriptures-vol-1
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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 3:27 AM

Thanks

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 9:45 AM

Good to know!

And how about this, any opinions:

https://www.logos.com/product/47303/the-jewish-pseudepigrapha-an-introduction-to-the-literature-of-the-second-temple-period 

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 9:51 AM

It looks like it's a brief introduction (224 pages) but without the texts themselves. With Charlesworth (and I presume this new volume: I'm waiting for some sort of discount on it before buying) you get the text and some background information. 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 11:17 AM

I think each volume on the PG (and by extension apocrypha, depending on the grouping), has a useful perspective.

Charles: Older, but one of the few that's commentary based and combines the PG with the apocrypha for discussion.  Includes text.

Charlesworth: Updates Charles, and discussion-based; includes text. Considerable depth.

Nickelsburg: One of the best for looking at the writings by time-period and development.  For example, the Sybilline Oracles are broken up by estimated writing period.  Discussion; no text. In-depth.

Docherty: Groups by type of writing (genre); discussion, no text.  A number of other volumes bounce around by genre; this one is a disciplined grouping, though an introduction.

Eerdmans Dictionary of Early Judaism: this and similar pick up some of the more unusual writings, plus author discussion, etc.

OT Pseudepigrapha - More: Very useful on the 'edges', especially where your search isn't having any luck.  Formatted similar to Charlesworth but no overlap.

Penner/Heiser's PG Interlinear: Includes the primary greek ones; no english glosses, but very useful looking for re-used phrasing (connectivity)

Collin's 'Between Athens & Jerusalem': Fills in the more greek associated authors and writings (overlaps with some PG and apocrypha).  Discussion; no text.  The grouping is unusual; sort of a 'motivation'-grouped.

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 12:10 PM

Jonathan Pitts:
https://www.logos.com/product/49494/old-testament-pseudepigrapha-more-noncanonical-scriptures-vol-1

Is there a version in original, morph-tagged languages?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 12:18 PM

Jonathan Pitts:
It looks like it's a brief introduction (224 pages) but without the texts themselves. With Charlesworth (and I presume this new volume: I'm waiting for some sort of discount on it before buying) you get the text and some background information. 

It's not. Each text has an introductory essay and an English translation. A lot of the texts are fairly short, or even fragmentary, hence the length.

A big problem with the Logos version (IMO) is that most of the texts don't have proper milestones (not even relatively well-known texts like "The Life of Adam and Eve").

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 12:18 PM

Francis:
Is there a version in original, morph-tagged languages?

The majority of these texts don't exist in their original languages, but have been preserved in translation.

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 1:08 PM

Mark Barnes:

Jonathan Pitts:
It looks like it's a brief introduction (224 pages) but without the texts themselves. With Charlesworth (and I presume this new volume: I'm waiting for some sort of discount on it before buying) you get the text and some background information. 

It's not. Each text has an introductory essay and an English translation. A lot of the texts are fairly short, or even fragmentary, hence the length.

A big problem with the Logos version (IMO) is that most of the texts don't have proper milestones (not even relatively well-known texts like "The Life of Adam and Eve").

I was replying to Veli's post about Docherty's book. Are you referring to that or Bauckham's book?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 2:13 PM

Jonathan Pitts:
I was replying to Veli's post about Docherty's book. Are you referring to that or Bauckham's book?

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to Bauckham/Davila.

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James Hiddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 4 2015 3:28 PM

Veli Voipio:

Interesting resource thanks.

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 15 2015 12:17 PM

I did buy this book

The book is from 2013, so the next question: do you think are there any links to this book from other Logos books?

https://www.logos.com/product/49494/old-testament-pseudepigrapha-more-noncanonical-scriptures-vol-1

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 15 2015 1:43 PM

Veli Voipio:

I did buy this book

The book is from 2013, so the next question: do you think are there any links to this book from other Logos books?

https://www.logos.com/product/49494/old-testament-pseudepigrapha-more-noncanonical-scriptures-vol-1

Have you tried to use the Cited By tool to see whether that's the case?

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 15 2015 11:06 PM

Francis:
Have you tried to use the Cited By tool to see whether that's the case?

Thanks for the advice! I found two references to this book in the Lexham Bible Dictionary, in the Bibliography part.

(They don't work automatically, though. I mean bibliography references don't normally open the resource, nor I have an option to open it when right-clicking the bibliography entry.)

I was expecting that there are not many links to a brand new resource. This is all right, I was just curious and wanted to test.

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