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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Apr 8 2015 11:56 AM

As someone who uses a Chromebook quite a bit, I find the Logos Now concept quite intriguing.  However, I am more interested in improved web functionality rather than cutting edge features and the latest data sets.  From what I understand, the new web site is in its primordial stage and isn't worth an investment of $9 a month.  As a result, I am sitting on the fence.

Why doesn't Logos?:

- Offer a 3 month trial period instead of 1 month to attract users to it while it develops?

- Break up the offerings into two.  One would be just the web site for $3-4 a month and the other one can be the new features plus the web site.  Call it Logos Now and Logos Now Plus.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 12:05 PM

I think people need to remember they are going to a quicker release time frame so I assume new features will be coming quicker. As to the website, I understand it as a beta sneak peek per the marketing so someone shouldn't get Logos Now (as of now) solely for the web app.

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KPK | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 12:13 PM

Could someone explain to me what the website is for? Why need the web when we have the software? Thanks! 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 12:17 PM

KPK:

Could someone explain to me what the website is for? Why need the web when we have the software? Thanks! 

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 12:44 PM

KPK:

Could someone explain to me what the website is for? Why need the web when we have the software? Thanks! 

currently I am at work and would love to look stuff up, but can't. That's why :)

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 1:05 PM

David Taylor Jr:

KPK:

Could someone explain to me what the website is for? Why need the web when we have the software? Thanks! 

currently I am at work and would love to look stuff up, but can't. That's why :)

I'm thankful that I use a laptop for both work and home but when I occasionally it don't have access to it, having the web option is great.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 2:11 PM

Also for the growing number of users who want to use Logos on a Chromebook, which can't install the desktop/laptop version and doesn't have access to much more than a book reader in the previously available websites. Second, those with a tablet that can run a full Windows version but don't have enough storage will enjoy this.

For me, the web app is the real story. The rest of it is only useful to a segment of advanced users.

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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 3:01 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Also for the growing number of users who want to use Logos on a Chromebook, which can't install the desktop/laptop version and doesn't have access to much more than a book reader in the previously available websites. Second, those with a tablet that can run a full Windows version but don't have enough storage will enjoy this.

For me, the web app is the real story. The rest of it is only useful to a segment of advanced users.

That is why I believe that the web app should be offered separately at a lower price...like $3.99.  

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Mike W | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 3:46 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Also for the growing number of users who want to use Logos on a Chromebook, which can't install the desktop/laptop version and doesn't have access to much more than a book reader in the previously available websites. Second, those with a tablet that can run a full Windows version but don't have enough storage will enjoy this.

For me, the web app is the real story. The rest of it is only useful to a segment of advanced users.

 

Same here, I haven't taken a Greek or Hebrew course in over 30 years and don't really have much interest in the extra desktop features. I haven't gotten around to reinstalling logos after recently upgrading an OS on my laptop (Not looking forward to the huge downloads and indexing that brings my laptop to a crawl).  Most of the time I'm on my iPad or am using a computer that can't run logos desktop. 

With the Logos web apps and a handful of other websites I haven't found anything I've wanted to do that I couldn't (Library.logos.com does the guides and Biblia supports a good set of search functions, Other sites offer plenty of original language tools for me).   When the web app gets to the point that it offers more than the current web apps I will definitely subscribe (context menu, layout, guides  are the items on the proposed list I'm really looking forward too Smile). 

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KPK | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 6:44 PM

I don't want to make a new thread, so I'm going to ask a question that may have already been ask. 

With the subscription, I know that I get add-ons or additional features so when the crossgrade comes out, do I have to purchase the crossgrades in order to -keep- my features on the software? Once I cancel the sub, everything is gone. I lose all benefits, is that correct? 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 6:48 PM

KPK:
With the subscription, I know that I get add-ons or additional features so when the crossgrade comes out, do I have to purchase the crossgrades in order to -keep- my features on the software? Once I cancel the sub, everything is gone. I lose all benefits, is that correct? 

There are two different questions here:

1. Yes, if Faithlife offers the rental features in a crossgrade they would have to be purchased. Faithlife hasn't worked out whether those who have rented will be a better price than those who haven't.

2. Yes, you lose everything if you stop subscribing.

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KPK | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 7:01 PM

So is it safe to say I'm paying for 2 different things?

Thank you for answering my questions! 

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 7:04 PM

Mark Smith:
Yes, you lose everything if you stop subscribing.

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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 7:18 PM

I wonder how many people would be interested in subscribing to an improved web site for a lower price without receiving the feature upgrades to the desktop program?  

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 7:22 PM

That's a sufficiently obvious next step that I's expect Faithlife to consider it once the website has sufficient functionality for it to be reasonable.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 8 2015 8:14 PM

KPK:
So is it safe to say I'm paying for 2 different things?

Not quite sure that you mean.

You are paying (right now) just for temporary use of the Logos Now tools and datasets.

As time goes on that payment will get you the web app and (perhaps) some other perks.

You are not getting anything for a future crossgrade. You may. Faithlife is trying to decide about that.

Did I get your question?

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KPK | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 9 2015 10:36 AM

Yes! Thank you! Big Smile

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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 12 2015 7:48 AM

MJ. Smith:

That's a sufficiently obvious next step that I's expect Faithlife to consider it once the website has sufficient functionality for it to be reasonable.

I hope that Logos will implement it.  I spend $3.75 a month for Evernote Premium and would be willing to pay the same for a decent Logos web app.

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 12 2015 11:04 AM

Big Smile

At this time Logos Now does not yet appeal to me but I would like to suggest one thing that I think would make it more appealing to everyone: 

1. That would be to make it something like being an Amazon prime member where we would be given a selection of a variety of older and newer books that we could read for free through the app. 

I own a large library but if I was given the opportunitty to at least read a couple of books that I do not yet have then that would make the 9.99 fee seem much more feasible. 

It it would give me an opportunity to read some books that I might be on the fence about purchasing and then increase Logos sales because I might decide to purchase the book after reading it or to put the book on my wish list. 

This might also be used to help Logos put together more specific base packages for people. They could use this to possibly bring some people on board to purchase a base package or a larger base package by learning more about the reading and study habits of their users. 

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 12 2015 8:18 PM

Any thoughts about my Above suggestion? 

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