[resolved] Clause participants

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, May 12 2015 3:34 AM

I'm looking at a video regarding the Clause Participants. Clicking on the Lemma of the word and doing a Word Study, I notice in the video they are showing "Grammatical Roles" and "Semantic Roles."

For whatever reason, I am not seeing that when I actually try doing that in Logos. I'm using Silver and is that what I'm looking for not included in this version of Logos or is there a way for me to show what I'm looking for - "Grammatical & Semantic Roles."

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 4:08 AM

Bootjack:
I'm using Silver

Clause participants is included in Silver and above so you should be ok

Bootjack:
or is there a way for me to show what I'm looking for - "Grammatical & Semantic Roles."

Do you mean that you don't see the "Clause Participants" section in the BWS or that you don't see the buttons to toggle between Grammatical and Semantic roles?

Can you post a screenshot of what you are doing?

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:17 AM

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:19 AM

You'll notice Graham there is no Grammatical Roles / Semantic Roles showing on the top of the Clause Participants. This is why I posted to the forum.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:20 AM

Here is what I see on the video ... but not on my Logos 

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:28 AM

wait wait wait.. hold ooon...

is that Comic Sans??

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:29 AM

Bootjack:

You'll notice Graham there is no Grammatical Roles / Semantic Roles showing on the top of the Clause Participants. This is why I posted to the forum.

Thanks - that's helpful.

What you are seeing is the "Grammatical roles" section - but no option to get to the Semantic roles

I see you are doing this against KJV1900 - what happens if you try with another interlinear?

(Note the KJV 1900 should work - I'm just trying to determine whether this is a resource issue or something else)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 8:32 AM

Bootjack:
You'll notice Graham there is no Grammatical Roles / Semantic Roles showing on the top of the Clause Participants

And do you have the "Case Frames" section?

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 1:25 PM

Thank you Graham for your reply(s). I've tried this in the ESV and still no options as to Grammatical or Semantic Roles. 

I do have "Case Frames" but getting no results in several words I've just clicked on. Please advise. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 1:27 PM

One other thing to try

For this to work I believe you need the Semantic Roles and Case Frames dataset described at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92734.aspx 

Does the Agent Clause search described at that link work for you?

If not, I suggest you try the command "update resources" and see if it downloads what you need.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 1:32 PM

I see no Agent Clause anywhere .... 

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 1:35 PM

I sent to the link you gave me and all I see there is how to buy Silver ... I see nothing on this Link as to how to get what we're looking for. Updating Resources did zero. 

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 2:10 PM

Ok Graham, I just got off the phone with Logos and the reason these features I'm inquiring about are not included because I have but the Core Crossgrade instead of Feature Crossgrade! I wasn't aware of the distinction between the two.

Thus the great mystery of the missing Grammatical Roles and Semantic Roles has now come to a dramatic close! Let's have a moment of silence shall we!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 3:07 PM

Bootjack:
Ok Graham, I just got off the phone with Logos and the reason these features I'm inquiring about are not included because I have but the Core Crossgrade instead of Feature Crossgrade! I wasn't aware of the distinction between the two

Glad you have it sorted.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 6:20 PM

Thank you Graham. Always appreciate your help! 

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