[acknowleddged]BUGGY: Second report of bug

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 22 2015 12:23 AM

Come on Logos, this error and missing feature is getting very annoying.

  1. When one expands the width of the Sermon pane, the scripture portion does not extend to show more of the reference.
  2. The liturgical date is not showing. I really thought we had finally gained this obvious feature.

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2015 1:45 PM

Come on, MJ. Smile

There's an open issue for reformatting several of the sections that are styled with this wonky table view, but it's not our top priority. 

(To be clear, the issue is that what you want -- for the references column to take more space from the title -- will make the guide look worse-to-unusable in the 90% case where it opens in a narrower window and only one reference. In order to both auto-size and truncate with ellipsis dots, the columns have to have minimum and maximum widths set. The max width for references is pretty generous, and it works until your window gets over 1000 ish pixels wide. The solution is going to involve getting rid of the table altogether, or allowing lines to wrap down instead of truncating with ellipsis dots. Even so, I don't know if someone tags a sermon with over five references how well this guide section is ever going to show that. It's a summary, and at some point, summaries summarize.)

What does "the liturgical date is not showing" mean? I see "Seventh Sunday of Easter" where your orange arrows point. Isn't that a liturgical date? Or do you mean that we aren't converting that to a calendar date and adding it to the rightmost column? I don't think we have any plans to do that.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2015 2:47 PM

I'm sure someone promised me it would be soon a year ago .... wasn't it a feature we lost from L3 to L4 ..... but its useless unless I get .... (which pleas have I omitted?)Wink

I've been asking for a liturgical date column since the Sermon section appeared - it's more meaningful to me than the secular date which has some use. I honestly thought I had seen a liturgical date column show up here. Now I'll be puzzled all day - where was liturgical date recently added?

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2015 4:00 PM

I talked with Lou and he set me straight on the liturgical date, which is there in the data, and we should be showing in the third column but aren't. I'll see if there's already an issue in the system I can find and bump.

I did spend about an hour on the formatting thing during the 6.0 beta and all the easy things we tried were worse than the current display.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2015 4:12 PM

Okay ... I do have higher priorities than visual perfection of the sermon section. And I'm glad to know I hadn't imagined the additional column.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 29 2015 12:37 AM

Eli,

Just so that Martha is not a lone voice...

As a jobbing worship leader mostly in the reformed traditions churches I make extensive use of the lectionary and liturgical dates are quite useful.

There is an unwritten but ubiquitous convention that unless you are told otherwise it is safe to preach on the lectionary readings because they will not have been addressed recently by the incumbent minister.

This means that visiting (or emergency) worship leaders are in the 'swing' of the christian year and can with some impunity preach on texts that are fresh(ish) to the congregation.

Please keep the lectionary in mind when ever you are thinking of dates etc.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 29 2015 2:07 AM

What really concerns me here is the regression with no indication that it should be checked in beta testing. I doubt that Faithlife has a robust automated testing environment or even strong testing plans. And in beta testing we don't have access to any complete visual screenshots of intended screen contents or functional specifications -- I'm not suggesting that we should, only saying that the dropping of a field that was recently added is very difficult to catch by beta testers.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 30 2015 2:06 PM

Eli Evans:
if someone tags a sermon with over five references

Surely you have seen what the Catholic Lectionary looks like. This is for tomorrow:

Not to talk about the Easter Vigil:

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Angela Murashov | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 3 2015 2:47 PM

Fixed bug in 6.5 RC1 where date was missing from Sermons section. Smile

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