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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2015 8:27 PM

The biggest need I have in Logos is to be able to have the book read aloud while I'm driving during my commute time.  I would much rather listen to the books in my collection than to the radio anyway.

This isn't using the existing smartphone read on-screen feature.  That won't cut it.  I need to have the app read continuously until I stop it, possibly for 20-30 minutes at a time.  I don't want it to read what's on the screen in under a minute and then quit.  I want to enjoy the collection that I've paid for.

It doesn't have to be professional actors reading a dramatized version of the book.  I'm fine with the same computer generated voices that are used in apps for the blind.

This is a MUST HAVE for me.  As the father of two small boys, some days my drive time is about the only available time I have to peruse my collection and I can't do that while driving unless it's converted to audio on the fly.

Thanks!!

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Fredc | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2015 3:53 PM

So are asking Faithlife to turn every resource they have into an audio book? I'm no expert, but if that is even possible it seems like it would be a huge expense. I know if I buy a book at the store, they do not give me a free audio book to go with it.

If have misunderstood your request, please let me know.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2015 5:26 PM

Unfortunately the mobile app doesn't have a read aloud feature but I'm sure you must be aware of the read aloud feature for the regular software (see below). One possibility that I have not tried but could work is to use a laptop with bluetooth and run that through your car radio.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2015 5:41 PM

Bruce Dunning:
Unfortunately the mobile app doesn't have a read aloud feature

This is true, but on Apple devices iOS has a built-in read aloud feature.  Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/p/92097/679087.aspx for instructions.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2015 5:53 PM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):

Bruce Dunning:
Unfortunately the mobile app doesn't have a read aloud feature

This is true, but on Apple devices iOS has a built-in read aloud feature.  Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/p/92097/679087.aspx for instructions.

Personally I find both computer generated voices very difficult to listen to but I guess is that is the only option it is better than nothing.

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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 8 2015 9:08 PM

Fred,

No, it's not a "huge expense".  I'm not asking for an audio book for every ebook; that would require hiring a voice actor to dramatize the text.  I'm asking for a computer voice to read the existing ebook.  There's a huge difference.  Computer generated voices to read text have already existed in a number of apps for more than 20 years.  Logos is late to this party.

I hope that clarifies.  :-)

Scott

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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 8 2015 9:11 PM

Kevin,

The built-in read aloud feature on Apple iOS only reads the text that's already "on the screen" so you can hear it if you are blind or see poorly.  I'm suggesting an automated feature that would keep reading the book "whether the text is on the screen yet or not".  I've tried the Apple iOS feature, and it doesn't work for hands free driving.  I would still have to touch the iPhone in order to advance the text.  I want the app to just keep reading the book on and on until I manually stop it.

Scott

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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 8 2015 9:18 PM

Bruce,

I admit that computer generated voices can take some getting used to, but it's a mature technology now with multiple voices to choose from.  Once you get used to it, it's very efficient.  My blind friends can listen to computer voices at a much higher rate of speed than I can; but they are skilled at it through practice.

Scott

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Scott Sanjay Hayes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 8 2015 9:28 PM

I'm currently experimenting with the iPhone app "NaturalReader Text to Speech" By NaturalSoft Limited.  It reads PDF and some other formats.  I wish Logos had something similar to that built in to its iPhone app.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 8 2015 9:32 PM

Scott (Sanjay) Hayes:

Kevin,

The built-in read aloud feature on Apple iOS only reads the text that's already "on the screen" so you can hear it if you are blind or see poorly.  I'm suggesting an automated feature that would keep reading the book "whether the text is on the screen yet or not".  I've tried the Apple iOS feature, and it doesn't work for hands free driving.  I would still have to touch the iPhone in order to advance the text.  I want the app to just keep reading the book on and on until I manually stop it.

Scott

What version of iOS are you running?  Page turning works fine for me, I'm running Logos 4.6.3 on iOS 8.4.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 13 2015 8:00 PM

Scott (Sanjay) Hayes:

Kevin,

The built-in read aloud feature on Apple iOS only reads the text that's already "on the screen" so you can hear it if you are blind or see poorly.  I'm suggesting an automated feature that would keep reading the book "whether the text is on the screen yet or not".  I've tried the Apple iOS feature, and it doesn't work for hands free driving.  I would still have to touch the iPhone in order to advance the text.  I want the app to just keep reading the book on and on until I manually stop it.

Scott

Scott,

I don't believe this is the case even on iOS 7.  Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92097.aspx and see if it helps.

Also, please do not post questions to UserVoice - it's a suggestion site and not a question/answer forum.  Thanks!

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Keith Gant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 13 2015 11:19 PM

Scott, one thing I’ve done for a couple of resources is to play the audio on my Windows laptop using Logos’ built-in Read Aloud capability (Ctrl-R), and capture the audio to a file with Windows Sound Recorder or another app. (This can take hours for a large book.) Then I copied the audio file to my iPod where I could listen to the resource while jogging or driving. Obviously this takes a bit of effort and must be done separately for each resource you want.

An alternative to the above is to copy the text from the resource into a Word document, then use one of the number of Windows apps which will turn a text file (Word doc) into an audio file using synthesized speech. But since Logos limits the amount of text you can copy in one operation, you have to copy it piece by piece to get a whole book.

That being said, for a long time I’ve been wishing for the very same thing you are requesting for mobile devices, which would make it so much easier.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 5:46 AM

Keith Gant:
Scott, one thing I’ve done for a couple of resources is to play the audio on my Windows laptop using Logos’ built-in Read Aloud capability (Ctrl-R), and capture the audio to a file with Windows Sound Recorder or another app. (This can take hours for a large book.)

I am not sure if there is a faster method for windows or not... but on Mac, users can use the "right click" menu for many apps to "send to iTunes as a spoken track" (under "services") which is very fast. NOTE: this won't work within Logos, so you will have to export the book (or a section of it) to word, pages, etc.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 10:44 AM

Keith Gant:
That being said, for a long time I’ve been wishing for the very same thing you are requesting for mobile devices, which would make it so much easier.

This is already supported on iOS mobile devices.  If you are saying it doesn't work for you please post detailed instructions for reproducing the issue.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 11:12 AM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):
This is already supported on iOS mobile devices.

You can use "read aloud" for any book in your library? Isn't that what the OP (and Keith) is asking? Or are you directing him to "VoiceOver"? 

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 11:17 AM

alabama24:

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):
This is already supported on iOS mobile devices.

You can use "read aloud" for any book in your library? Isn't that what the OP (and Keith) is asking? Or are you directing him to "VoiceOver"? 

Ah, sorry for the confusion.  Isn't VoiceOver the iOS equivalent of Logos Desktop's Read Aloud (i.e. a computer voice reading the text)?

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 11:37 AM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):
 Isn't VoiceOver the iOS equivalent of Logos Desktop's Read Aloud (i.e. a computer voice reading the text)?

I believe you are thinking of Speech (Settings>General>Accessibility>Speech>Speak Screen). I use it daily. You have have the ability to change voices as well. Alex is the best by far. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 12:24 PM

Kevin Byford (Faithlife):
Ah, sorry for the confusion.  Isn't VoiceOver the iOS equivalent of Logos Desktop's Read Aloud (i.e. a computer voice reading the text)?

In a way... VoiceOver is a computerized rendering of text on the screen, but it is an "accessibility" feature for the visually impaired. 

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John Kight:
I believe you are thinking of Speech (Settings>General>Accessibility>Speech>Speak Screen). I use it daily.

My apologies. I was unaware of this feature. Was it new to iOS 8? The last time I looked into "read aloud" on iOS, VoiceOver was the only option. "Speech" does appear to be a much better feature, and seemingly works well with the mobile apps. 

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 1:20 PM

alabama24:
Was it new to iOS 8?

I think that you're correct, iOS 8. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 1:43 PM

I don't feel <quite> as bad now. Embarrassed Smile

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