New Visual Filter Option 6.5 Beta 2

Has anyone seen this in action:

Visual Filters

Data that indicates who was being spoken to (the addressee) in each instance of reported speech is now available.

Adds a new “Addressees labels” visual filter that shows the addressee icon in the same location that the speaker icons go.
Searching for addressees is done using the label syntax {Addressee <%datatype %entity>}. For example: {Addressee <Person Jesus>}.
Addressees are shown in the Other References section in the Information Panel.
Added to the context menu under the Speaker.

I tried with a couple of bibles last night and not seeing the new additions and not sure if I am doing something wrong or if I didn't use the right resources. Tried with the NIV and ESV and just not seeing this working. Anyone else try it? Have any examples of it working you can share?

Thanks

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John Kight

Anyone else try it?

I gave it a brief attempt last night and got nothing.

James Taylor

nothing for me either

Angela Murashov

I tried with a couple of bibles last night and not seeing the new additions and not sure if I am doing something wrong or if I didn't use the right resources.

This is a Logos Now feature. Are you a Logos Now subscriber?

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749127#Comment_749127

I am and also don't see the same problem. Are the resources supposed to be updated?

Dustin Pearson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749128#Comment_749128

Yes, I have Logos Now (Did the one time year subscription).....

Angela Murashov

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749128#Comment_749128

I am and also don't see the same problem.

I will look into this and check that the correct dataset was unlocked. I will update you as soon as I figure out why you are not seeing it. Thank you for your patience.

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749131#Comment_749131

I am and also don't see the same problem.

I will look into this and check that the correct dataset was unlocked. I will update you as soon as I figure out why you are not seeing it. Thank you for your patience.

Er, sorry, I mistyped that. That should say: I am and also DO see the same problem.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749127#Comment_749127

This is a Logos Now feature. Are you a Logos Now subscriber?

Yes

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749149#Comment_749149

Are you a Logos Now subscriber?

I am a NOW subscriber as well, and don't see the new feature

Angela Murashov

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749131#Comment_749131

I am and also don't see the same problem.

I will look into this and check that the correct dataset was unlocked. I will update you as soon as I figure out why you are not seeing it. Thank you for your patience.

Unfortunately Logos Now users will have to wait until tomorrow morning in order to see this new feature. An update resource is required to be able to see this new visual filter, and it will be shipped out tomorrow morning.

We will update this thread once the resource will be available to download.

Dustin Pearson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749243#Comment_749243

Good news!

Thanks

Angela Murashov

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749244#Comment_749244

Good news!

Thanks

The updated Reported Speech dataset has been shipped. Please enter "Update Resources" into the Command Bar and the download should begin. After the resource is downloaded, open up a Bible such as the ESV and the new Addressee labels visual filter should appear.

Thank you for your patience! [:)] Please let us know if there are any issues that come up.

Martin Grainger Dean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749410#Comment_749410

Angela, in which category this new item can be included: Datasets, Interactive Media, Media Collections, Features or Other? I see no reference to it in the official page: [url]https://www.logos.com/product/50138/logos-now[/url]. Many thanks, Martin.

Jacob Cerone

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749458#Comment_749458

Martin,

This would be a dataset. There is no reference to it on the official page or on the Logos Now sticky page because it is a beta release. We will update all these pages once 6.5 has been officially released.

Dustin Pearson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749460#Comment_749460

It is working for me now.

Thanks

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749410#Comment_749410

the new Addressee labels visual filter should appear.

Yep, working for me now too :-)

Quick question, is this the same data that is powering the info at the right click menu option when clicking on personal pronouns or generic words for people such as men, crowd, etc. like this...

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749480#Comment_749480

In other words, is the new filter just a quicker more eye-catching way to see the data that was already there through the right click menu, or is this new data?

Angela Murashov

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749481#Comment_749481

this new data?

This is new data. If you right click on the text following the ear icon you should see the Speaker data. Here's how it should look like:

Jacob Cerone

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749481#Comment_749481

This dataset is built on the referent data but is new data. That is to say, the referent data is the same, but we've curated all the places someone is addressed. For instance, before you could find everywhere <Person Jesus> appeared. You could also find everywhere {Speaker <Person Jesus>} occurred. But now you can find interesting combinations like {Speaker <Person Jesus>} {Addressee <Place Jerusalem>}. Or {Speaker <Person Jesus>} {Addressee <Person God>}. The former will turn up Jesus' lament concerning Jerusalem's upcoming destruction lack of repentance. The later will find all places Jesus prays/speaks to God.

Martin Grainger Dean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749483#Comment_749483

Jacob, so you're saying this is an enhanced version of ReportedSpeech.lbsrsd (DB:REPORTED-SPEECH)? Or is another new DB? In this case which? I can't find it listed in my Tech Support Information panel. Martin.

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749483#Comment_749483

Ok, because even in Angela's example I can see the same tag both ways...

before you could find everywhere <Person Jesus> appeared. You could also find everywhere {Speaker <Person Jesus>} occurred. But now you can find interesting combinations like {Speaker <Person Jesus>} {Addressee <Place Jerusalem>}

I understand, thanks

Jacob Cerone

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749484#Comment_749484

I will leave this for Angela to answer. I believe she has a better grasp on the technical aspects. I'd hate to provide you with misinformation.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749484#Comment_749484

Jacob, so you're saying this is an enhanced version of ReportedSpeech.lbsrsd (DB:REPORTED-SPEECH)? Or is another new DB? In this case which? I can't find it listed in my Tech Support Information panel. Martin.

Hi Martin,

In case it wasn't clear in the Release Notes, this new dataset is only available to Logos Now subscribers.

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749486#Comment_749486

Ok, Here is an example of the difference between the two. This tagging is more precise when there are individuals within a crowd that have been marked.

Dustin Pearson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749488#Comment_749488

What I am not understanding is take Genesis 3:13 there are three ears and three speakers icons shown, but Information panel, Other references correctly shows only one speaker and one addresse.

Anyone else see this?

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749531#Comment_749531

Other references correctly shows only one speaker and one addresse.

Anyone else see this?

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749532#Comment_749532

When hovering over any of the 3 filters it shows Eve as Addressee

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749533#Comment_749533

When hovering over any of these filters, it displays God as the Addressee

Angela Murashov

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/749531#Comment_749531

What I am not understanding is take Genesis 3:13 there are three ears and three speakers icons shown, but Information panel, Other references correctly shows only one speaker and one addresse.

Anyone else see this?

I am able to reproduce this issue, and will create a case for Development to investigate.