Ok - WBC and "New to You" - isn't it working correctly or not?

Kevin A Lewis

The reason I ask is that for the WBC sale - which I would like to take advantage of the product page is in conclusive.

The "New to You dropdown section suggests I would be purchasing

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7b: Joshua 13–24 (Second Edition)

However when I look further down to the final product list section I get:

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

This list is more accurate in my view

But how do I know what I am going to be buying and will the 2nd editions be additional to any 1st editions I currently own

I really only want an Official Faithlife response please.

Shalom

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JT (alabama24)

WBC and "New to You" - isn't it working correctly or not?

I am still trying to work it out myself. [:s]

will the 2nd editions be additional to any 1st editions I currently own

Absolutely, yes. In nearly every instance, a new edition = new resource. This means you will have an "old" and "new" version. Really the only exceptions to this happen with bible translations when the publisher updates the text but doesn't consider the new text a new translation (i.e. the ESV has had several updates. These happen behind the scenes and you are not notified of the change other than the normal resource update notification... in other words, you don't know if the text has changed, a typo has been fixed, or formatting issue resolved).

I really only want an Official Faithlife response please.

That isn't quite how the forums work [;)]

If you don't get an "official" response, you should contact them directly. FL does interact in the forums, but it isn't the best place to get a direct answer.

Allen Browne

But how do I know what I am going to be buying and will the 2nd editions be additional to any 1st editions I currently own
I really only want an Official Faithlife response please.

Kevin, I hope you do get an official response.

It is confusing, and adding to the confusion:

I wasted money paying $42.90 to buy the WBC set on dynamic price. It turned out that there were only 4 volumes I didn't have, so I would have been better to buy the 4 at $9.90.
The 1 Peter volume in the page on the set is shown as copyright 2010, but was actually published in 1998. This isn't a 2nd edition.
The actual pricing in the Zondervan collection is inconsistent. It shows some WBC volumes as costing $9.99 and others at $45.95, and it wrongly lists some that I already own as "new to you".

What I can tell you is that when I still kept my 1st edition volumes when I bought the 2nd edition ones, e.g.:

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760021#Comment_760021

I can verify that there is a problem. Under the new to me drop down box there is nothing new. at the bottom it lists one title that is new to me, and the price of the bundle is something like 10$.

Additionally there is a problem with dynamic pricing on the upgrade bundle. I supposedly own two of the three volumes, and it still wants to charge me 40$ for it. Which would imply no dynamic pricing wouldn't it?

Joshua Franklin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760021#Comment_760021

I had a similar problem. I took your question and submitted it in a chat (almost verbatim). Probably like you, I was missing the same four volumes not just two as the "New To You" showed. I thought $42.90 was off considering they were selling for only $9.99. However, I asked about the 10% credit, and I was told that if I purchased the set for this price that I would receive that credit in 4-6 weeks.

Further, only Judges was available for $9.99. I couldn't find Joshua & 2 Cor. listed for that price. It was only bundled.

Hope this helps,

Joshua

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760035#Comment_760035

I paid $10 and change for the second Corinthians revised edition volume.

DAL

Edit: I now added the 2 original vols. on Isaiah and the old one on Joshua. I own the revised version, but I figured revised versions are considered "new" versions with more content so don't really want to missed anything that old might have that the new might not have and vice versa.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760037#Comment_760037

I just purchased the bundle at $42.90 and received four volumes, despite the "New to You" section telling me it would only be three.

Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760037#Comment_760037

Hello all, thanks for the call outs and questions.

The WBC now contains Volume 40: 2 Corinthians (Second Edition), we're updating the "New to you" section to reflect this.

If you already own the First Edition, the Second Edition will be new to you and included in your purchase.

The two Joshua volumes have never been for sale individually through Logos. We are making these available as individual volumes at the $9.99 individual volume pricing today.

There are two ways to complete your WBC collection, by purchasing individual volumes for $9.99 each, or to purchase the entire collection, dynamically priced. The dynamically priced collection will add up to slightly more than the $9.99 per volume price, but we are offering 10% of the price you pay for the collection back in Logos credit that will be issued in early October, which ultimately makes purchasing the collection as a collection the better value.

Randy W. Sims

https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Word+Biblical+Commentary&unlocked=no

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DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760037#Comment_760037

Anyway we could purchase the old version of Joshua and Judges On WBC? Prior to this sale they were available

DAL

Alan

The reason I ask is that for the WBC sale - which I would like to take advantage of the product page is in conclusive.

The "New to You dropdown section suggests I would be purchasing

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7b: Joshua 13–24 (Second Edition)

However when I look further down to the final product list section I get:

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7b: Joshua 13–24 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 8: Judges

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 40: 2 Corinthians (Second Edition)

This list is more accurate in my view

Shalom

Kevin,

I have the same "differing New to You" situation. There is a further confusion which I discovered:

In my existing library, I have these two resources:

Watts, John D. W. Isaiah 1–33. Vol. 24. Revised Edition. Word Biblical Commentary. Nashville: Thomas Nelson, Inc, 2005. which has about 500 odd pages;

Watts, John D. W. Isaiah 34–66. Vol. 25. Revised Edition. Word Biblical Commentary. Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson, Inc, 2005. which has about 958 pages.

However, in the newer WBC package of 62 volumes, noted these two resources:

Volume 24: Isaiah 1–33, rev. ed. John D.W. Watts Edition: 2nd Publication Date: 2004 Pages: 624

Volume 25: Isaiah 34–66, rev. ed. John D.W. Watts Edition: 2nd Publication Date: 2005 Pages: 448 {this is a huge reduction of pages}

This is all getting very confusing .... [:O] [:S] [:^)]

Mark Smith

This is a mess!

My price if I get the 'set' is $53.63.

New to you lists:

This is in error, as I see the following at the bottom of the screen:

So actually I need five volumes, not four. The Job volume is one I do need.

If I buy them individually they will total $49.95 NOT $53.63.

With all the hype, you would think Logos had plenty of time to get this figured out.

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760037#Comment_760037

Mine was 10.73 too. However, is there a way to find which volume actually downloaded apart from opening the Logos desktop app? I am away from my Logos install.

[I did complete the collection instead of buying the individual volume.]

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760075#Comment_760075

I believe you will get $5.36 back in October as credit, which makes this the better deal for you if you did wish to complete the collection.

But to be fair, I have to say that is confusing and secondly, seems like weird math. In my books, if this was to be a loyalty discount (which it kind of is), it should have been 9.99 per volume in the collection with the 10% credit on top. Just my humble opinion.

This is a mess!

My price if I get the 'set' is $53.63.

New to you lists:

This is in error, as I see the following at the bottom of the screen:

So actually I need five volumes, not four. The Job volume is one I do need.

If I buy them individually they will total $49.95 NOT $53.63.

With all the hype, you would think Logos had plenty of time to get this figured out.

Linden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760075#Comment_760075

So actually I need five volumes, not four. The Job volume is one I do need.

If I buy them individually they will total $49.95 NOT $53.63.

With all the hype, you would think Logos had plenty of time to get this figured out.

I'm in the same situation. Dynamic price of $53.63 with only four volumes in the New to You list (Job, Joshua (2) and 2 Cor) but 5 volumes listed in the more details area (Judges is missing). At work so I'm not sure if either list is correct.

Alexxy Olu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760109#Comment_760109

I think I better wait a couple of days for this confusion to be sorted.

I need to be sure of what am actually getting for the $53.63 that it is showing me.

Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760109#Comment_760109

Hello All,

The "New to you" feature is updated to include the Second Editions where appropriate, and to include the missing Judges volume.

Thanks for sharing the details of what you were seeing.

Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760140#Comment_760140

The individual volumes, priced at $9.99 are actually a better deal than the dynamically priced collection, due to stipulations in our distribution agreement. That's why we're offering 10% of your dynamically priced purchase of the complete 62 volume collection back in Logos credit.

Everyone should see the "New to you" list match the list of resources with a blue starburst in the "More details about these resources" section at the bottom of the page.

Erik

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760141#Comment_760141

This morning my dynamic price for the 62 vol. set was $30.21. I have all but three vols.

I just went to purchase it and the price has increased to $117.09. [:^)]

Something is definitely broken, especially when the three individual vols. are under $30 if purchased separately.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760082#Comment_760082

Although this has been changed some this morning it is still messed up. I could spend $117.09 or 3 x $9.99. I only need 3 volumes to complete the set.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760141#Comment_760141

The individual volumes, priced at $9.99 are actually a better deal than the dynamically priced collection, due to stipulations in our distribution agreement. That's why we're offering 10% of your dynamically priced purchase of the complete 62 volume collection back in Logos credit.

I missed seeing this on my last post. Sorry about that. I have now ordered each of the volumes at $9.99 each. Thanks!

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760149#Comment_760149

That is indeed a mess. Once I go back home I will have to check what volumes actually downloaded for me and compare it to the full WBC list on the website.

Although this has been changed some this morning it is still messed up. I could spend $117.09 or 3 x $9.99. I only need 3 volumes to complete the set.

Jonathan Heemstra

The reason I ask is that for the WBC sale - which I would like to take advantage of the product page is in conclusive.

The "New to You dropdown section suggests I would be purchasing

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7b: Joshua 13–24 (Second Edition)

However when I look further down to the final product list section I get:

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7A: Joshua 1–12 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 7b: Joshua 13–24 (Second Edition)

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 8: Judges

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 40: 2 Corinthians (Second Edition)

This list is more accurate in my view

Kevin,

The discrepancies between the "new to you" resource list and the "More details about these resources" have been resolved. There should be parity between the two lists now.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760165#Comment_760165

That is indeed a mess. Once I go back home I will have to check what volumes actually downloaded for me and compare it to the full WBC list on the website.

Take a look at my post directly above yours and you will find the answer. It is a better deal to go with the $9.99 deal than to go with the collection.

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760167#Comment_760167

My price just went up from $49 to $135 still the same 5 vols... seems very glitchy.

Erik

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760167#Comment_760167

That is indeed a mess. Once I go back home I will have to check what volumes actually downloaded for me and compare it to the full WBC list on the website.

Take a look at my post directly above yours and you will find the answer. It is a better deal to go with the $9.99 deal than to go with the collection.

Sure the individual vols. are a "better deal" than the inflated 62 vol. price, but they weren't an overall better deal this morning when my upgrade price was $30.21 with a 10% credit.

Linden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760141#Comment_760141

Everyone should see the "New to you" list match the list of resources with a blue starburst in the "More details about these resources" section at the bottom of the page.

The lists now match for me, but the dynamic price has almost tripled to $135.66 from $53.63 for the five resources! [:O]

JC54

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760180#Comment_760180

same here, around 80 dollars price increase.

Please Logos, if all volumes are sold for 9.99. The reasonable price for the whole set is something like N* 8,50. Not N *17,00! This makes no sense, has not made any sense from the first announcement of the sale weeks ago.

Alexxy Olu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760195#Comment_760195

Still waiting for Faithlife to urgently bring sanity to this confusion.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760204#Comment_760204

Still waiting for Faithlife to urgently bring sanity to this confusion.

i guess location matters because I had no problems with my WBC purchases.

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760167#Comment_760167

If all things work well, and if you need Logos credit (which I dont mind having anyway), the collection is better. 10.73 - 10% should be around 9.65

That is indeed a mess. Once I go back home I will have to check what volumes actually downloaded for me and compare it to the full WBC list on the website.

Take a look at my post directly above yours and you will find the answer. It is a better deal to go with the $9.99 deal than to go with the collection.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760213#Comment_760213

WHAT A MESS- 4 books at 9.99 ea does not equal $126.38- the website is on crack.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760223#Comment_760223

Ok took the plunge- $195, picked up 14 books- completed a couple collections, picked up some new material- not bad avg. $14 ea- WBC was a deal maker for me. [:D]

Greg Corbin

Count me in too. I understand the responses explaining the 10% Logos credit for buying the WBC set to make it worthwhile. However, I only needed 5 volumes and the "dynamic" price was $135.66. However, I happened to notice that "New to You" only showed five volumes. I double checked with my library and found that was correct and those five volumes are on sale for $9.99 each. Now, I won't be trusting dynamic pricing anymore because it almost caused me to throw away $85

Alexxy Olu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760213#Comment_760213

Still waiting for Faithlife to urgently bring sanity to this confusion.

i guess location matters because I had no problems with my WBC purchases.

Possibly because the confusion seems to be increasing.

As I just looked at the individual volumes now: it's showing that I can buy the Isaiah volumes which I own already;

I can see two instances of the 2Corinthians the one close to the top is greyed out meaning I own it which I don't and the one near the base shows it is available for me to buy!

It's late here now.

I will wait for the confusion to clear before hopefully I can buy two volumes: Judges and the 3rd volume of Job.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760242#Comment_760242

I bought the two volumes that I needed that were not revised. The other three were left unpurchased.

I visited the WBC page again to my new dynamic price:

Three missing volumes for $32.18. HMMM.

The New to You listing in now correct (that's good):

But, this is where is gets interesting. I put this in my cart and here is what I see:

Not $32.18 (wherever that number came from) but $27.85. AFAIK 3x9.99 is $29.97. Where the 'list' $29.32 came from I don't know. The $27.85 is a 5% savings over this incorrect total. I do also get the .01 and notice of a 10% credit.

Interesting math here, but we're closer, and definitely more in my favor.

It does make me leery of all the other bundles I cannot so easily check out.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760262#Comment_760262

Not $32.18 (wherever that number came from)

I discovered the answer in another thread.

The 62 volume collection is priced at $664.95, on sale.

When you do the math, the collection is priced at $10.73 per volume, which is obviously more than the sum of the parts. That's why we're offering 10% of the dynamically priced collection back as Logos credit.

Your dynamic price = (the number of volumes you don't own) x ($10.725)

Kevin A Lewis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760166#Comment_760166

Kevin,

The discrepancies between the "new to you" resource list and the "More details about these resources" have been resolved. There should be parity between the two lists now.

Thanks for your help with this Faithlife and Jonathan

Shalom Kevin

Jacob Hantla

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/760141#Comment_760141

The individual volumes, priced at $9.99 are actually a better deal than the dynamically priced collection, due to stipulations in our distribution agreement. That's why we're offering 10% of your dynamically priced purchase of the complete 62 volume collection back in Logos credit.

Everyone should see the "New to you" list match the list of resources with a blue starburst in the "More details about these resources" section at the bottom of the page.

Thank you. That's what I was noticing...that it was cheaper to purchase individually.