New Feature: Corresponding Words Visual Filter

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2015 9:40 AM

What is it?

The Corresponding Words Visual Filter automatically draws on surface, lemma, and root data to automatically identify similar words on hover over or on click.

How does it work?

The new Corresponding Words Visual Filter instantly identifies everywhere repetition occurs within any of your resources. Find all the places "love," "loves," and "loved" appears within a commentary or the biblical text simply by hovering over the word you want to investigate. Or find all the places a specific lemma or root occurs within a biblical text. You can even see how the author of Jonah uses the phrase "go down" to highlight both Jonah's physical and spiritual descent from the presence of the Lord.

By identifying repetition, the Corresponding Words Visual Filter helps you draw out key themes and ideas in a passage.

Where can I learn more?

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2015 9:17 AM

Jacob,

I am unable to get the LDGNT to work with Corresponding Words. Please see screenshot below:

I have the corresponding words. It works for other Greek and Hebrew Texts.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2015 9:31 AM

John

I have been looking at this - and found it "nearly" works. Can you check what I am seeing is consistent with what you are seeing?

(I have both "same surface text" and "same lemma" set in both ESV and LDGNT)

  • If I click on a word in LDGNT, words with the same surface text and highlighted in LDGNT while words with the same lemma are highlighted in ESV
  • If I click on a word in LDGNT, words with the same lemma - but different surface text - are not highlighted
  • As ESV - LDGNT matching has to work on same lemma / same root the lack of lemma matching explains why selecting words in ESV has no impact on LDGNT

If this is correct it looks as though the issue relates to a lack of lemma matching in LDGNT

Graham 

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2015 11:15 AM

I tested this on an internal build and it looks like we are matching the lemmas in LDGNT but not painting the markup. I've filed as a bug. Thanks!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2015 11:30 AM

Thanks Eli

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 2:35 AM

Two questions:

1. What is the difference between 'same word' and 'same surface text'? Can you give me an example? 

2. Which option highlights a specific 'sense'? In the description it says:

Jacob Cerone:
Or find all the places a specific lemma, root, or sense occurs within a biblical text.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 3:18 AM

Schumitinu:
1. What is the difference between 'same word' and 'same surface text'? Can you give me an example? 

"Same word" means exactly the same word in exactly the same location.

"Same surface text" means the same word in any location.

Note: If you have the reverse interlinear panel turned on, you won't see "same word" highlighting, because the interlinear highlighting will take precedence (and does the same thing).

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 5:56 AM

Mark Barnes:

Schumitinu:
1. What is the difference between 'same word' and 'same surface text'? Can you give me an example? 

"Same word" means exactly the same word in exactly the same location.

"Same surface text" means the same word in any location.

Note: If you have the reverse interlinear panel turned on, you won't see "same word" highlighting, because the interlinear highlighting will take precedence (and does the same thing).

Thanks, makes sense now.

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2016 7:55 AM

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Schumitinu:

Which option highlights a specific 'sense'? In the description it says:

Jacob Cerone:
Or find all the places a specific lemma, root, or sense occurs within a biblical text.

Still curious. This would greatly enhance the usefulness of this feature.

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2016 8:28 AM

Schumitinu:
Which option highlights a specific 'sense'? In the description it says...

I'm afraid that was a mistake in the description. Sense was considered in an early conception of Corresponding Words, but isn't currently supported. It may be added in the future.

For now, try the Concordance Tool, which can group by Sense for any passage range. 

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2016 9:04 AM

Thank you for the response. Yes, I like that ability in the concordance tool!

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Richard Mast | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 6 2017 3:58 PM

Hello, I'm sorry, that still doesn't make sense to me.  Does "Same Word" refer to "same greek word" or same English word?  And what do you mean by same location?  Sorry to bother you. :)

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 6 2017 4:32 PM

Hi Richard! I'm not following your questions. It may be best to create a new thread and to give more background to your questions. What are you trying to do? What have you attempted? What resources are you using?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 6 2017 6:27 PM

Richard Mast:
Does "Same Word" refer to "same greek word" or same English word? And what do you mean by same location?

"Same word" = same Greek/Hebrew manuscript word in the same position/location (within the same verse) across multiple resources (works with RI's)

"Same surface text" = same surface text (Greek/Hebrew or English word) in one or more resources

So have two bibles side by side (e.g. ESV reverse interlinear + Greek bible) and link them. Set only "Same surface" in the first and only "Same word" in the second. Click a word in the first and you see all the same surface words, but only the same word will be seen in the second. If you click a word in the second you won't see anything in the first unless you select "Same word".

Hope that helps.

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Richard Mast | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 3:55 PM

Yes thanks so much!  Amazing!

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