Encyclopedia Britannica Update

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 8:13 AM

FWIW

The resource is essentially complete. We've been finishing up some cosmetic touches and triple checking a few things. Due to its enormous size this has been a lengthier process than I hoped. If all goes well we'll finish those final touches today and it will be available shortly thereafter.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 8:38 AM

Outstanding! Speaking for many, I'm sure, heartfelt thanks to you, Ben, and the rest of your crew!

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 5:15 PM

Kyle G. Anderson:
The resource is essentially complete

Yes

Looking forward to it.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 5:22 PM

Bruce Dunning:

Yes

Looking forward to it.

Me too.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 8:53 AM

OK, so it's the last day of August. I'm not throwing in the towel yet because there's a small chance we could actually ship it today. I'll let you know as soon as I know one way or the other.

Thanks!

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Brian Losabia | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 8:54 AM

My budget would really have no problem with this shipping in September. 

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Eric Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 8:57 AM

For many of us, it was paid for last year.  FL has been probably made an estimated  $.12 interest on my money while I have been waiting.

The release is truly going to be exciting for those of us who have been waiting this long.  However, I am still wrestling with the idea that I could be so excited about an encyclopedia.  

Jeez, what a book nerd.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 9:04 AM

Brian,

Did you pre-order the original EBNE (Compton's) and keep the order? If so, there should be no additional charge.

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Greg F | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 9:14 AM

I was under the understanding that those who ordered EB back when it was actually Comptons and who asked for a refund would also be allowed to put in an order at the original pre-pub price. Is that still the case?

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Brian Losabia | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 9:14 AM

Hi Ben,

I did have (and explore, delightedly) the original EBNE product.  After a few surprise items in the budget the same month that the encyclopedia shipped, I wound up having to get a refund to help out.  I was able to get my original pre-order reinstated through customer service though, and am very excited for the upcoming EBNE + Compton's. 

:)

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 9:31 AM

Greg F:

I was under the understanding that those who ordered EB back when it was actually Comptons and who asked for a refund would also be allowed to put in an order at the original pre-pub price. Is that still the case?

Correct. You'll need to call customer service to get your pre-pub reinstated.

Brian Losabia:

Hi Ben,

I did have (and explore, delightedly) the original EBNE product.  After a few surprise items in the budget the same month that the encyclopedia shipped, I wound up having to get a refund to help out.  I was able to get my original pre-order reinstated through customer service though, and am very excited for the upcoming EBNE + Compton's. 

:)

Sounds good, Brian. I just wanted to make sure we had you taken care of when it does ship.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 3:49 PM

The EBNE resource itself is just about done. However, for a number of reasons, it won't ship for about 2 weeks (we'll put a ship date on the PDP today or tomorrow). Here are the main reasons:

  1. It is our practice to give around 2 weeks' notice before we ship a pre-pub. This gives people an opportunity to place a last-minute pre-order; it allows people an opportunity to cancel their pre-order; and it gives people a warning that we are going to charge their credit card.
  2. The people who got a refund when it first shipped and put in a new order at the original pre-pub price will need to be processed as pre-pub orders again.
  3. We can't process only a portion of the pre-pub orders.
  4. We want everyone to have to chance to look the product over and return it if they have concerns or are not happy with it. With all that is going on with the L7 launch, we feel that shipping the product right now would limit the ability of sales and customer service to give each of you the attention you may need.

Thanks again for your patience on this!

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 3:51 PM

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 3:55 PM

Ben Amundgaard:

The EBNE resource itself is just about done. However, for a number of reasons, it won't ship for about 2 weeks (we'll put a ship date on the PDP today or tomorrow). Here are the main reasons:

  1. It is our practice to give around 2 weeks' notice before we ship a pre-pub. This gives people an opportunity to place a last-minute pre-order; it allows people an opportunity to cancel their pre-order; and it gives people a warning that we are going to charge their credit card.
  2. The people who got a refund when it first shipped and put in a new order at the original pre-pub price will need to be processed as pre-pub orders again.
  3. We can't process only a portion of the pre-pub orders.
  4. We want everyone to have to chance to look the product over and return it if they have concerns or are not happy with it. With all that is going on with the L7 launch, we feel that shipping the product right now would limit the ability of sales and customer service to give each of you the attention you may need.

Thanks again for your patience on this!

I'm sure most will disagree but this will work awesome for me since I bought 7 this month

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 6:40 PM

Thanks for the update, Ben.  Looking forward to it.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 1 2016 11:19 AM

Not sure I agree with this decision.  I understand the reasoning, but I think this is a special case, considering the flubbed release, then the lengthy delay in prepping the final product.  Oh, well.  I'm sure it'll be worth the (even longer) wait.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 1 2016 11:34 AM

Well, Paul, technically, we're into not-a-promise period #2. And I expected it.

Britannica (I learned how to spell) is likely to far exceed Logos7 in value. It combines Logosians (us), the Noetians (who still wonder if Noet 7 was a pipe-dream), and of course ... well, I forgot the Catholic one, and the low-brow one (I've no idea what a low brow is).

Addtionally just a single Britannica download may well exceed buying a Portfolio package.  Think 'massive'.

So, I fully understand Logos trying to eake out a few more sales from Logos7, before 'the main event'.


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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 1 2016 11:35 AM

I am undecided on this resource. I think it would be neat, but my main concern is academic research - not just personal enlightenment. I have been told all my life that I shouldn't cite a "general" encyclopedia in my academic works. What is everyone's take on this? I certainly feel that the ISBE and AYBD are worthy resources for academic work. What about the Encyclopedia Britannica?

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 1 2016 11:37 AM

Paul Strickert:

Not sure I agree with this decision.  I understand the reasoning, but I think this is a special case, considering the flubbed release, then the lengthy delay in prepping the final product.  Oh, well.  I'm sure it'll be worth the (even longer) wait.

Thanks for the feedback. It was definitely a difficult decision and I can totally understand why you disagree. We had to make a decision and in this case we wanted to err on the side of caution.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 1 2016 11:42 AM

Josh, buying books for research citings is tricky.  I got a geology book that was supposed to be new. But not ... someone earlier bought it solely for bibliography-pumping-up. 

So there you go ... don't cite Britannica ... just copy the bibliographies!

I'm joking of course.


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