Anyone heard of the Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible by AMG Publishers?
Anyone ever heard of the Hebrew-Greek KEY WORD STUDY BIBLE by AMG Publishers?
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This looks like a pretty neat study bible. What I like about it is that it emphasizes and highlights the most important keywords throughout the scripture - from Genesis to Revelation.
Here's what AMG says about it on their website:
There are times when a Greek or Hebrew word has a distinct meaning that seriously affects the proper interpretation of Scripture. Unless you are familiar with these languages, you will not be able to determine what word in the original text was used or the differences between these words - until now.
The Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible identifies the key words of the original languages and presents clear, precise explanations of their meaning and usage. Those who love God's Word will treasure this Bible, for it contains a whole library of biblical helps within its covers.
SUGGESTION: Please consider acquiring rights to produce this resource digitally and make it available in Logos Bible Software.
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Stein Dahl said:
... make it available in Logos Bible Software
AMG Bible Essentials for $ 99.95 includes:
Complete Word Study Dictionary New Testament has indexes of Greek Headwords and Greek Strong's Number, which are useful for right click access (from any Bible).
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LOGOS' version is found in this bundle:
https://www.logos.com/product/9438/amg-bible-essentials
The bundle could be improved by updating to one of the more modern translations (ESV, NASB, NIV, or NKJV). Most of the functionality can be had without a newer translation; but if one is familiar with a specific translation, it would be helpful to have this tool keyed to that translation
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Yes, I have both of those resources already - in both my Logos and WORDsearch Libraries. But this is something different.
It's a study Bible that identifies, for the reader, the main Key Words right in the text of the scripture.
I think this would be awesome in Logos
Here is a link to a video from AMG:
And see this picture sample:
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I have this in my Logos Library. I do not recall when I purchased it or how as I have been using Logos a long time.
With all the tools and features now available in Logos, many of the features of this resource seem out dated. For example everything is in footnotes rather than tags, which makes it difficult to search for anything other than words and strongs. The Reverse Interlinears now provide morphology more detailed than the AMG. In the AMG Study Bible they are shown as footnotes. One feature I really like is that is shows whether nouns have the definite article or anarthrous. Again, this can be done with a reverse interlinear and visual filters.
The Key commentary is also a footnote and pop up. Here is the commentary on John 1.1:
Hope this helps.
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John Fidel said:
many of the features of this resource seem out dated
I own a couple different hardback copies of the HGKSB, including a modern translation (NIV). I bought them both in the 80s or early 90s. I loved the features they provided.
However, John is right. These features are redundant in Logos, and much less detailed than some of the Logos features that serve the same purpose. While you could rightly argue that a hardback copy of the Bible with these features beats carrying a laptop to church, I don't see any way you can rightly argue that the HGKSB in Logos is a better tool than many of the built-in features of the software, including the aforementioned resources from AMG (which I also own and still use on occasion due to familiarity and respect for Spiros' Z's scholarship). Since the actual study notes from the HGKSB are included in the AMG resource package, I can't see any reason to add anything else to it. (And as I said, I'm a *big* fan of the HGKSB.)
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Hello Stein,
I personally have issues with key word explanatory notes section. I have 3 of these bibles. I have used them much for the past year. So you know I do very much like this bible lay out. I stay in the scriptures. I do use the Hebrew / Greek to verify that I am understanding the word correctly.
The thing is, the few times I looked at the Key Word Explanatory Notes I realized the Notes are bent to / toward a certain view of the scriptures. The Holy Spirit is to guide us into ALL truth. I trust the Spirit of God to reveal to me what the meaning of His word is.
Donald
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Yes...thank you and why I have been thinking in this regard what I need that would be helpful in this direction. I was looking at the Key Study bible and also the Word Study Dictionary I believe both by AMG. I have the Key Study in NASB that was given to me but like KJV.
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I have two HGKSBs. One in KJV and one in ESV. I really like the features, and the dictionary in the back. However, I think that the various lexicons and dictionaries and the reverse interlinear feature in Logos makes the Key Study Bible pretty unnecessary in software. I can right-click any word in a reverse interlinear translation and get the Hebrew or Greek, and look it up in any of my lexicons that I choose. The notes of the Key Study Bible are only so-so. Certainly not something I would ever refer to in Logos.
So I dunno. As a fan of the printed version, I am not clamoring for it in Logos.
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Hello Everyone,
I too used all of Spiros Zodhiates paper books like the Hebrew Greek Key Study Bible way back in the late 1980s for message prep and personal study. In the Logos platform, all of this information is available already just by mousing a word. At the bottom of the pane the complete Greek grammar appears along with Strongs number and more.
In Logos if you then just click on the chosen word in the passage, more indepth info appears in a pane on my right side of Logos including various reference works with Greek definitions etc. You can also edit which ones you want to use by changing the priorities of various books. Don't ask me how to do this priority for I did that a while ago and do not remember.
I use the NIV84 in Logos and the NASB in Logos for study for messages and personal study. The AMG Bible Essentials doesn't have the Heb Greek Study Bible but does have The Complete Word Study Bible which includes much of what you seek from the HG Study Bible. Logos fills in whatever else you need.
Long story short, adding the coding for the massive HG Study Bible by Spiros Zodhiates would really be laborious and redundant.
Grace and Peace in Christ!
Mike
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Michael Sobol said:
Hello Everyone,
Long story short, adding the coding for the massive HG Study Bible by Spiros Zodhiates would really be laborious and redundant.
Given, the thread is almost 4 years ago, I don't think anyone is tremendously driven. Smiling. And welcome to the forum ... you have good comments.
But I do see a need for something like HGK. There's quite a bit of Logos tools from in-depth (apparatus, lexicons), to quick summaries (Lexham Research volumes, etc).
But none that go deep (significance) but 'thinly' ... that I know of. Another thread, today on that. I use 'the Source' (hardcopy) though evangels would look to NET Notes or similar.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
But none that go deep (significance) but 'thinly' ... that I know of.
10 year old thread but keeps on going [:)]
I would agree with those who see the paper book format as not necessary when doing Bible study on a computer that has so many Greek resources available and accessible. But these resources are still popular today.
I recently watched a youtube video where Darryl Burling gave his recommendations for a Greek Lexicon.
He analyzed the strengths and weakness of 9 different lexicons. The Zodiates Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament made number 4 on his list.
On the Logos page for this resource it shows that it is also included in AMG Bible Essentials (15 vols.)
The other lexicons are analyzed in the video and he gives a nice list of resources with links to Logos for each one.
Because the links are so helpful I am duplicating his list here. Refer to the video for his complete presentation.
Concise Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament
* Logos: http://bma.to/conciselexicon
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/3GQ6Jrm
Liddell & Scott
* Logos: http://mntg.me/lsj
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/48qRi4D
Abbott-Smith
* Logos: http://bma.to/abbott-smith
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/3tpSUg2
Zodiates, Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament
* Logos: http://bma.to/zodiatesnt
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/41puv6Z
BDAG
* Logos: http://mntg.me/bdag
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/41rqAGw
NIDNNTE
* Logos: http://mntg.me/nidntte
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/41w0x0Q
Trenchard, Complete Vocabulary Guide to the New Testament
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/41q9fOp
Burer and Miller, A New Reader’s Lexicon of the Greek New Testament
* Logos: http://bma.to/burermiller
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/48sUkFi
Fresch, Book by book guide to New Testament Greek Vocabulary
* Logos: http://bma.to/freschnt
* Amazon: https://amzn.to/3NCOE3B0 -
John said:DMB said:
But none that go deep (significance) but 'thinly' ... that I know of.
10 year old thread but keeps on going
I would agree with those who see the paper book format as not necessary when doing Bible study on a computer that has so many Greek resources available and accessible. But these resources are still popular today.
I recently watched a youtube video where Darryl Burling gave his recommendations for a Greek Lexicon.
Study Bible, John ...smiling.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
Study Bible, John ...smiling.
Not sure what you mean ... the original topic was about the study Bible, is that it? [H] But there was discussion about how Logos made it unnecessary. I thought it would be relevant to discuss Logos alternatives, especially alternatives that are in the same bundle from the same publisher.
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In the beginning was the Key Word Study Bible by Spiros Zodhiates. This was my first and favorite study Bible. I still have it and use it on occasions when the spirit moves me. I, like John Fidel, am lucky enough to have this resource preserved in Logos. But, this is not my reason for this post.
I found by chance and circumstance a online Bible that may be of interest to readers of this post it's called the STEPBible https://www.stepbible.org/ I hope some of you may find it both interesting and useful. Check it out.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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