Linux version of Logos Bible Software

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2019 12:31 PM

To clarify, the Logos installer is incorrectly assessing the presence of .net so far as I can tell. This is because of the windows version setting. You want win7 to run the logos installer and winxp to run logos. The setting should not make a difference except to apps that explicitly check for it. This is not entirely true with .net due to a bug. Which is why although Logos doesn't check the windows version once installed you are less likely to see crashes once set to winxp.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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aaylnx | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2019 2:06 PM

Rik Shaw:

The winetricks scripts that install .NET change the Windows Version back and forth for various compatibility patches while getting the different parts of .NET installed. At some points it even sets it to Windows 2003 if I recall correctly. Anyway, if the .NET install part didn't succeed, then it could be that it was set to winxp when it failed. Anyway, John is right that using winecfg is the gui way to change the Windows version. Alternatively you can change it with a winetrick like this:

WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine-logos/ winetricks win7

(or winxp for setting to XP)

Regarding the need of whether or not we should use win7 or winxp, wasta-logos-setup can set it to whatever we prefer. So far, I don't see much difference. I think my indexing all completed using win7?? So if we want winxp, the wasta-logos-setup script could set to win7 for the Logos install, then set to winxp after the install.

Rik

Might be a good idea to try setting it to 7 in the installer, and then to XP for running Logos.

Adam

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Dirk Kellner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2019 3:14 PM

J. Erik:

Giving it a go on Manjaro with 64 bit wine...

J.Erik, did the Installation work with manjaro? Would be great!

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 12 2019 7:08 PM

This thread has really become exciting for me..... Logos is the only reason I haven't wiped my SSD and gone with a straight Linux (likely Mint) build. 

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 13 2019 6:12 AM

I'm getting the same .NET error when trying to install on a fresh Kubuntu LTS

Update - wound up getting it installed currently on Step 3 of 4 in Logos. There was an error that I forgot to record and once I installed what the error said was missing, everything ran perfectly

Update II - Running pretty well - seems like the Indexer is not working. Stays at 0% and I left it running for more than a few hours already. Still running and did not crash - winecfg is set to XP

Bill Anderson:

So, I am going to give up for the moment trying to install this on my Pixelbook in Crostini. I want to see if I can install it in VM first and then learn from that.

I have a Bionic VM in a Windows host. I got through all of the steps successfully and then ran wasta-logos-setup. Things went OK until I encountered this error:

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Dirk Kellner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 3:52 AM

Oh happy day! Thanks a lot to Rik, John and all linux-freaks out there. I tried to install logos at LinuxMint 19.2 (ubuntu 18.4 LTS) on a really old Notebook (Sony Vaio NW21) and a quite new desktop. Both worked without any bug! Now both machines are indexing, but I can already work with it. The performance of the Vaio is poor, but I dont mind. With win 10 it would be the same or even worse. Maybe one day you guys could create a package for the AUR and logos will run under manjaro/arch. But so long I will happily switch to Mint/Ubuntu.

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Sunday Oke | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 4:49 AM

I would have loved to escape from Windows as well, but it's also Software like Logos that are holding me back.

There seems to be no escape from Windows Bloatware even the most powerful machines eventually grind to a halt after the so many updates.

LBS doesn't care much better I must say it's memory and CPU power requirements and management or not the best.

What a combination Windows and LBS, it's just that finding software with the features that LBS has is impossible

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 6:14 AM

I have found that with a bigger library the indexer can report 0% but in fact is indexing and eventually it will complete. I'm not sure if it is faster or slower than in windows. If you have near 10k resources expect to leave indexing over night. With Logos Basic it takes maybe an hour or two.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 8:45 AM

I believe you are indeed correct. Though the indexer stayed at zero, it appeared to have finished. Just in case I ran the Rebuild Index command and the indexer moved up to 11% then stalled, but finished without going beyond 11%.

I really can't comment on the efficiency versus Windows, as it would be an apples to oranges comparison. I run Windows on an SSD and pulled that out and replaced it with a HDD. It's been a long time since I have run a HDD, but indexing and running Layouts with many resources open was brutal in Windows even with a quad core i7. (SSD equated a ridiculous performance enhancement in indexing and performance)

Now that everything is fully downloaded and indexed, this is amazing to use - I never use the Read Aloud function on my laptop, the media rarely - so the printing bug is the one that would hinder me a little.

Very thankful for the team that has gotten this done! Windows may soon be left behind and the Linux system moved to a SSD

John Goodman:

I have found that with a bigger library the indexer can report 0% but in fact is indexing and eventually it will complete. I'm not sure if it is faster or slower than in windows. If you have near 10k resources expect to leave indexing over night. With Logos Basic it takes maybe an hour or two.

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Dirk Kellner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 9:22 AM

I found a BUG: In the sermon editor I can't create an entry in the reference-box and in the subjet-box. When I type a reference (eg. John 3:16), nothing happens. There should be a choice of some references. I will add this bug to the google doc, ok?

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 14 2019 10:28 AM

Dirk Kellner:

I found a BUG: In the sermon editor I can't create an entry in the reference-box and in the subjet-box. When I type a reference (eg. John 3:16), nothing happens. There should be a choice of some references. I will add this bug to the google doc, ok?

Have you verified that this bug presently occurs only on Linux?

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 6:09 AM

Dirk Kellner:

I found a BUG: In the sermon editor I can't create an entry in the reference-box and in the subjet-box. When I type a reference (eg. John 3:16), nothing happens. There should be a choice of some references. I will add this bug to the google doc, ok?

Sorry this is your experience. It is working fine for me. Which version of Logos are you running on which system? Thanks.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Dirk Kellner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 6:24 AM

John Goodman:

Sorry this is your experience. It is working fine for me. Which version of Logos are you running on which system? Thanks.

I'm running it with:

1. Sony Vaio nw21, 4GB RAM, Linux Mint 19.2 XFCE (Ubuntu 18.4), 64bit, wine 4.17

2. Tarox/Asus, 16GB RAM, Linux Mint 19.2 XFCE, 64bit, wine 4.17.

In both machines the same issue. In Win everything works fine. I own the Gold-Package German.

Logos updated to 8.8. SR 1 in the first machine (Vaio) before I could stop automatic update. But it worked fine. I blocked the wine update and fixed 4.17.

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 8:02 AM

I recommend using a 32bit wine prefix on the 64bit system. You can move your documents and data into it.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 6:45 PM

Here is the terminal output of when the error message regarding the dot.net install.

wmadan@wmadan-VirtualBox:~$ sudo apt install wasta-logos-setup
[sudo] password for wmadan:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
wasta-logos-setup is already the newest version (0.1.10~ubuntu19.04.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
wmadan@wmadan-VirtualBox:~$ wasta-logos-setup

*** Beginning wasta-logos-setup-postinst.sh

*** Backing up original file: /opt/wine-devel/lib/wine/kernelbase.dll

*** Making symlink /opt/wine-devel/lib/wine/kernelbase.dll pointing to /usr/share/wasta-logos-setup/resources/kernelbase-4-17.dll

*** Finished with wasta-logos-setup-postinst.sh

rsync: change_dir "/usr/local/bin/winetricks-cache" failed: No such file or directory (2)
sending incremental file list
rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1207) [sender=3.1.3]

sent 20 bytes  received 12 bytes  64.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0  speedup is 0.00

Watching zenity process. If it is canceled then kill PID_PROCESS: 6140

wine: created the configuration directory '/home/wmadan/.wine-logos'
0012:err:ole:marshal_object couldn't get IPSFactory buffer for interface {00000131-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
0012:err:ole:marshal_object couldn't get IPSFactory buffer for interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}
0012:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hres=0x80004002
0012:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, 80004002
0012:err:ole:get_local_server_stream Failed: 80004002
0014:err:ole:marshal_object couldn't get IPSFactory buffer for interface {00000131-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
0014:err:ole:marshal_object couldn't get IPSFactory buffer for interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}
0014:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hres=0x80004002
0014:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, 80004002
0014:err:ole:get_local_server_stream Failed: 80004002
wine: configuration in '/home/wmadan/.wine-logos' has been updated.
  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND

Zenity process and parallel process both ended: success

Watching zenity process. If it is canceled then kill PID_PROCESS: 6216

  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND

Zenity process and parallel process both ended: success

Watching zenity process. If it is canceled then kill PID_PROCESS: 7073

  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND

Zenity process and parallel process both ended: success

Using winetricks 20190912-next - sha256sum: 4b994d981a7b6abe1f0edb6a57d8c15b1f060cf08de8819f9147e31ababf35a6 with wine-4.17 and WINEARCH=win32
Executing w_do_call fontsmooth=rgb
Executing load_fontsmooth rgb
Setting font smoothing to rgb
Executing wine regedit C:\windows\Temp\_fontsmooth=rgb\fontsmooth.reg
Using winetricks 20190912-next - sha256sum: 4b994d981a7b6abe1f0edb6a57d8c15b1f060cf08de8819f9147e31ababf35a6 with wine-4.17 and WINEARCH=win32
Executing w_do_call ddr=gdi
Executing load_ddr gdi
Setting Direct3D/DirectDrawRenderer to gdi
Executing wine regedit C:\windows\Temp\_ddr=gdi\set-wined3d.reg
Install file: /home/wmadan/Downloads/Logos-x86.msi
0009:fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
0009:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
0009:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
0009:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
0009:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot

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Kenneth Gardner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 9:58 PM

Thanks for this!

If I have time on my next weekend, I'm going to give this a shot. It's going to be an adventure, because I'm running Archman and not a Debian-based distro (so, no .deb files for me). This is truly a God-send. Thank you a lot.

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David J. Ring, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 11:17 PM

There is a package in AUR to convert DEB files to Arch type installation files.  It's something like deb2arch it works very well, the problem is some of the dependencies are broken, so you will have to package those or install from source.

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Rik Shaw | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 11:30 PM

Bill Anderson:


rsync: change_dir "/usr/local/bin/winetricks-cache" failed: No such file or directory (2)
sending incremental file list
rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1207) [sender=3.1.3]

sent 20 bytes  received 12 bytes  64.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0  speedup is 0.00

Bill, sorry for the bug! When I moved winetricks around (I install a local copy of it to ensure that the scripts for installing .NET are there rather than relying on the distribution's version of winetricks which may be too outdated), a bug crept in! The winetricks-cache folder is in /usr/share/wasta-logos-setup/resources/winetricks-cache, not /usr/local/bin of course! I have fixed this in the code, and it is building now. You want version 0.1.11 that will be ready in maybe another half hour.

ALSO, I have now made it so that the Windows version is set to win7 just before the Logos installer is run. Then after it successfully completes installation, the Windows version is set to winxp. This seems to match user feedback that Logos runs better with winxp as the version, especially for indexing, giving less error output, etc. So for everyone, look for version 0.1.11 for this change as well.

Happy Logos'ing,

Rik

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David J. Ring, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 16 2019 4:53 AM

What I meant was that some of the dependencies to complete an installation of Logos were not packaged. The package I believe is named as deb2tgz or something like that installs and works very well and has all dependencies.

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Dirk Kellner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 16 2019 9:05 AM

David J. Ring, Jr.:

What I meant was that some of the dependencies to complete an installation of Logos were not packaged. The package I believe is named as deb2tgz or something like that installs and works very well and has all dependencies.

Thanks, could you install logos in an arch-distribution using this package? I built the deb2targz, but  I don't  know, how to find and download the wasta-logos-setup.deb. I only found the html-Code at github. I'm really a grennhorn in Linux, sorry. But I'm willing to learn. And I'd love to use logos in my manjaro/arch distribution (in ubuntu it works quite well).

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