$4.99 Advent Sale

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PL | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Dec 26 2015 7:34 PM | Locked

Dear Faithlife,

Would you please kindly consider extending the $4.99 Advent book sale for a few more days, for those of us who unfortunately missed the Christmas Eve deadline?

Thanks!

Peter

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Geo Philips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 4:10 AM | Locked

I would like to secind this request. Missed the cutoof on Christmas Eve.

PL:

Dear Faithlife,

Would you please kindly consider extending the $4.99 Advent book sale for a few more days, for those of us who unfortunately missed the Christmas Eve deadline?

Thanks!

Peter

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Michael Wert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 4:21 AM | Locked

I will third this and dangle a carrot.... I now have some money!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 5:53 AM | Locked

 I do not second this (Or third it for that matter).  We all had 24 days to get the freebies and the companions.  For the first time it was clearly stated by logos, since day one,  that the deals would expire on Christmas eve (very surprising because they usually miscommunicate things). If you waited until the 25th to try to buy or get a freebie that was offered on day one then that is not Logos fault,  is your own fault; and Faith Life shouldn't have to honor this request or even  consider it.  They were very generous and if you missed out  on one of the deals because you decided to wait until the last minute and then something came up and you couldn't take advantage of the deals then tough luck it is what it is.  Sorry but sometimes a lot of users just want to take advantage of others' generosity and whether you want to see it that way or not, that's exactly what you are doing here and it's not right my brothers. 

In Christian Love,

DAL

Ps.  Truth is the truth hurts, won't you agree?  But I would rather  have people hit me with the truth than to comfort me with a lie or side with me  just to make me feel better.

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Michael Wert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 6:42 AM | Locked

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Michael Wert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 6:44 AM | Locked

I think I have found the issue.  when I just opened my phone in Logos app the picture below is what I see even today.  Seeing this screen would make me think I had a few days to order the books.  This must be a internet marketing issue associated with a phone or the Logos app.  What would you think if you saw the below screen Dated Dec. 25 and the title saying you had 2 days left to order books!  I am hoping Faithlife will acknowledge this issue on phones and deal with it. 

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Michael Wert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 7:07 AM | Locked

Even today below on my screen the 24 Days, 24 free Book link still causing me to think the offer still exist.  You may have to refresh the screen a few times because the add changes once in a while.

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Geo Philips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 9:42 AM | Locked

DAL, I have appreciated your passion on these forums but this seems a bit high handed and misplaced.

1. No one here is blaming Logos for anything. In fact, the only hint of accusation came from you ('usually miscommunicate things')

2. There is a full acknowledgment of accountability that we waited too long, for whatever reason. 

3. Taking advantage of generosity - apart from the incomprehensibility of that phrase in Christian contexts (for generosity needs to be taken advantage of for it to be effective, as many did for 24 days and we did not sadly), there is no attempt here to pressure or deceive Faithlife. It is a simple request from some users to Faithlife that can be evaluated, accepted, denied or ignored by Faithlife. No one is threatening to boycott them or stop buying their products or regretting their past purchases.

4. Truth hurts but this doesn't hurt that much to be honest. No one is losing sleep over this or forming change.org petitions or writing 20 page discussion threads.

In short, you seem to have the right answer to the wrong question.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, brother.

DAL:

 I do not second this (Or third it for that matter).  We all had 24 days to get the freebies and the companions.  For the first time it was clearly stated by logos, since day one,  that the deals would expire on Christmas eve (very surprising because they usually miscommunicate things). If you waited until the 25th to try to buy or get a freebie that was offered on day one then that is not Logos fault,  is your own fault; and Faith Life shouldn't have to honor this request or even  consider it.  They were very generous and if you missed out  on one of the deals because you decided to wait until the last minute and then something came up and you couldn't take advantage of the deals then tough luck it is what it is.  Sorry but sometimes a lot of users just want to take advantage of others' generosity and whether you want to see it that way or not, that's exactly what you are doing here and it's not right my brothers. 

In Christian Love,

DAL

Ps.  Truth is the truth hurts, won't you agree?  But I would rather  have people hit me with the truth than to comfort me with a lie or side with me  just to make me feel better.

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 12:31 PM | Locked

Geo Philips:

DAL, I have appreciated your passion on these forums but this seems a bit high handed and misplaced.

1. No one here is blaming Logos for anything. In fact, the only hint of accusation came from you ('usually miscommunicate things')

2. There is a full acknowledgment of accountability that we waited too long, for whatever reason. 

3. Taking advantage of generosity - apart from the incomprehensibility of that phrase in Christian contexts (for generosity needs to be taken advantage of for it to be effective, as many did for 24 days and we did not sadly), there is no attempt here to pressure or deceive Faithlife. It is a simple request from some users to Faithlife that can be evaluated, accepted, denied or ignored by Faithlife. No one is threatening to boycott them or stop buying their products or regretting their past purchases.

4. Truth hurts but this doesn't hurt that much to be honest. No one is losing sleep over this or forming change.org petitions or writing 20 page discussion threads.

In short, you seem to have the right answer to the wrong question.

Geo, I could not agree with you more. To be honest with you, there was quite a while when I didn't even visit these forums because I would get so upset and discouraged with the worldly attitudes, abruptness, cruelty, and pride of Christian brothers' posts to these forums, exactly like the one above. This is a prime example. You and several others were simply asking for a encore presentation of the sales, which is perfectly acceptable - I cannot imagine anyone would have a problem with others simply asking for these sales prices to return (we have not because we ask not). To bring in issues of "taking advantage of others" or to simply say "tough luck" to you and the others is totally unacceptable and outside of the standard of Christian character we are all to adhere to, even on an internet forum. And the whole idea that Dal is right "whether you want to see it that way or not" and the accusation that what you have said is "not right" is simply inappropriate, incorrect, and lacking any spiritual discernment or self-control in my opinion. It is fair for Dal to have his opinion - he is entitled to that. But to use this type of tone and rhetoric, and to deceive himself that he is writing to you under the guise of "Christian love" and as a deliver of the "truth" that you need to hear is lacking any rational biblical basis whatsoever and is absurd. 

I am reminded of what a wise man once said: "Whoever restrains his words has knowledge, and he who has a cool spirit is a man of understanding. Even a fool who keeps silent is considered wise; when he closes his lips, he is deemed intelligent." Proverb 17:27-28

The honorable thing to so - and the Christian thing - would have been to simply say, "I have a different opinion" or, preferably, to simply say nothing and move on, knowing that others are entitled to make request in these forums as they please without the unwarranted rebukes of their brothers and sisters. My heartfelt prayer is that he would apologize to each of you in humble repentance, but that is hard to do when your wrong is uncovered before men. In our flesh we tend to defend our position to the death, even when we know we are wrong and despite the Spirit's conviction in our hearts. It's even harder to say publicly that one was wrong, in a forum setting like this. It's much easier to keep defending our wrong positions to try and save face. Let's pray for a humbled heart, regardless. And let's all remember to love him regardless, as our brother in Christ. 

Anyway, I am sorry this occurred. You guys were perfectly in your right to ask what you have asked for. None of you deserved to be attacked and belittled as little children in the name of "truth." Please don't let this discourage you from asking again in the future, as is your right to do so. 

Blessings to all of you who asked. Maybe Faithlife will honor your request for this reason, if for no reason at all. 

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2015 12:33 PM | Locked

Michael Wert:

Even today below on my screen the 24 Days, 24 free Book link still causing me to think the offer still exist.  You may have to refresh the screen a few times because the add changes once in a while.

You are right. I can see where this would be a little confusing. Maybe FL can adjust the marketing plan to clarify. 

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 8:29 AM | Locked

Bump... hopefully Faithlife will see this request and consider it.

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 8:49 AM | Locked

PL:

Bump... hopefully Faithlife will see this request and consider it.

I got all the resources when they were on sale, but I am doing a courtesy bump for all of you who would like an encore presentation. 

So.....BUMP. Geeked

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 9:52 AM | Locked

Don't do it Faith Life they had plenty of time and is not like you  miscommunicated this time. They knew very well when the sale ended. 😝

 Anyway, brief overall  response:  First, I did not accuse faith life of miscommunicating, I stated a fact, as they have miscommunicated a lot of things in the past but surprisingly on the advent sale they didn't.  Therefore, it's not an accusation is a true statement. Second,  if you guys have acknowledged it's your own fault you missed out on the sale and that you don't want to pressure faith life to extend the sale, then why even make the request to extend it to begin with? And you keep bumping the thread -  I guess someone is actually losing sleep over this.  And third,  why does everybody get so sensitive and offended  when they hear the truth and all of a sudden they are the ones accusing you of cruelty and of being worldly and all this  baloney.  It seems like the only sin  it's telling someone that they are wrong but it's OK for them to turn around and tell you that you are wrong for telling them that they are wrong -- oh boy typical excuse used by the  immature ones who cannot handle the truth 🤔  Why does faith life have to be the one extending sales all the time just because you couldn't take advantage of the sale for "whatever"reason  when you had the same chance others had?  Everybody misses deadlines at one point or another,  but rules are rules that we must respect. This sale had rules and just because by your own fault you missed out on the sale doesn't mean faith life has to bend the rules yet again to accommodate you.  What makes you think you have the right to do that?  So no nobody is rightfully entitled to make this request get it right people and  put things in perspective at least once in your life.   Have you no shame of begging for the opportunity to buy a  $4.99 book?  Are you guys really that cheap?  I'm glad I'm not Jesus or else I would have  offended you by using kind words such as hypocrites and brood of vipers -  I'm just making a fair comment and I'm already getting stoned by the sensitive ones,  now imagine if I was like Jesus I would be on my way to getting crucified right now but I'm not using Jesus' way of telling people the truth -   I guess I know better than not to get myself killed LOL 

 Anyway keep bumping all you want I hope faith life doesn't give in  and gets taken advantage of yet again  by those who think that generosity is something that has to be given no matter what  without paying attention to the rules.

Blessings to all,

DAL

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 9:57 AM | Locked

Ah,  and before I forget.   If you guys keep whining  I hope faith life closest this thread 🤓

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 10:02 AM | Locked

James 1:26

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 10:04 AM | Locked

I  doubt Faithlife will extend the sale because there are a number of people who would accuse Faithlife of lying about the expiration date of the sale.....

Logos 7 Collectors Edition

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 10:11 AM | Locked

Myke Harbuck:
To be honest with you, there was quite a while when I didn't even visit these forums because I would get so upset and discouraged with the worldly attitudes, abruptness, cruelty, and pride of Christian brothers' posts to these forums, exactly like the one above.

I might suggest using Pr. 10:19.  

Geo´s response was well though out with out showing any antagonism. 

To promote Logos in this tread, here is a nice link http://biblia.com/verseoftheday/image/Pr10.19 

www.hombrereformado.org  Solo a Dios la Gloria   Apoyo

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 10:12 AM | Locked

Super.Tramp:

I  doubt Faithlife will extend the sale because there are a number of people who would accuse Faithlife of lying about the expiration date of the sale.....

 Thank you Supertramp at least someone is using logic and being reasonable to FL!  If FL  does it  then they are liars but if they don't then they are inconsiderate to the poor victim customers LOL

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 10:31 AM | Locked

Myke Harbuck:

 James 1:22 

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 12:08 PM | Locked

Tom:

Myke Harbuck:
To be honest with you, there was quite a while when I didn't even visit these forums because I would get so upset and discouraged with the worldly attitudes, abruptness, cruelty, and pride of Christian brothers' posts to these forums, exactly like the one above.

I might suggest using Pr. 10:19.  

Geo´s response was with well though out with out showing any antagonism. 

To promote Logos in this tread, here is a nice link http://biblia.com/verseoftheday/image/Pr10.19 

Tom, I can certainly see how you might see it this way, and I respect that. In fact, thank you for caring enough to speak your mind in a respectful manner. Honestly however, sometimes the truth must be spoken. There isn't a sentence or word of what I said that wasn't truth. Dal posted, and continues to post, antagonistic comments and to hyperbolize the words of others in this thread to provide himself an opportunity to attack them, and he is enjoying it. Someone must stand up for what is right - read the book of Amos. His conduct in this forum is completely unacceptable and is an affront to the Christian character we are all to exemplify in these forums. His words were in fact "worldly" as he showed no consideration for their feelings but instead chose to speak as the world speaks, they were abrupt, without any polish or consideration for the thoughts and feelings of others, they were cruel, leveraging accusations that were simply unwarranted as he took their comments out of context and used them to further his attacks on them in subsequent threads, and they were prideful, as he was not willing to apologize even after he was made aware they he had offended people in these forums. It pray earnestly that if I were in his shoes I would quickly realize hurt I have projected onto someone and stand ready to make it right through repentance and apologies. 

Indeed, my words in isolation may appear to be a violation of Proverbs 10:19, I concede. But within the broader scope of this thread they were a rebuke of someone who showed absolutely no consideration for the thoughts and feelings of others (and he continues to do so as he later accused them of "whining" and "begging"). Remember, the scope of the offense determines the scope of the correction.

I certainly do not mind being held accountable for my actions (that's a huge problem with American Christianity - no one wants to be accountable for their actions). As a pastor I welcome such an attempt to hold me accountable when the situation warrants such. However, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. The Bible is clear - we are to, in humility, consider others as more significant than ourselves (Ephesians 2:3). Dal did not do this when he proceeded to attack these brothers with unwarranted remarks. As such, with and after much prayer, I feel I was justified in defending the wishes and desires of these brothers, which, remember, was simply a reduction in the price of a few items (seemingly, no bid deal, right? At least not for most of us). They meant no harm to anyone and should been afforded the right to make their own requests without any adverse action on anyone's part, and should have been respected and honored as brothers in Christ - not demeaned and disrespected. And to this point, there has still been no remorse or apologies from him to them, even though the Bible is quite clear that if we knowingly offend our brother we should take appropriate steps to make it right as quickly as possible. 

Again, thanks for gently offering the words of wisdom. I do see your point and I appreciate your care and your concern. However, in light of the entirety of context here, the wisdom is, unfortunately, directed at the wrong person. These forums, being composed of Christian brothers and sisters, should be a place of encouragement, edification, wisdom, instruction, and fellowship. It should not be a place where people are afraid to ask for things or make comments out of fear that their comments may be hyperbolize or that they may be bullied. This is not representative of the nature of Christ, no matter what proof-texts are used by Dal to advance a potions. 

My apologies for anything I may have said that caused you concern. I do humbly ask your forgiveness, and I ask that you take a moment to look at the broader picture here and seek to see the context in which my comments were justly given. 

In Christ alone

Myke

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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