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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Dec 28 2015 2:37 AM

MJ. Smith:

Actually, there are several people working in mind mapping and concept mapping for Bible Study - including myself. I'm still several months away from a public demo.

But a small hint of where concept maps  take you in navigating scripture (with a big dose of imagination) is for Aaron's rod. Mind you here it doesn't link into Logos, topics.logos and other similar maps as it does in "real life" as a much different way to navigate cross-references..

 

Rick:

After lurking on MJ Smith's website (Logos4Catholics) I became intrigued with using mind mapping software. Although I found the free open source offerings difficult to use I took MJ' s recommendation on using a trial of affordable software. I paid for the non-trial three days afterwards. This is a shot of my first outline and am starting to put my thoughts into Word now. It is very good to help you remember things that "pop" into your mind while planning your course of action. Please remember that this is my first attempt and rudimentary but I can see it helping me with my research big time.

I am personally using it to organize my thoughts so that I can research and put the final study on paper. I am not a leader or teacher, simply a layperson with  no advanced training.

Friedrich:

here is one way to use Mind Maps.  Caveat: I am a novice at this and have never taken training.  It helps me see relationships visually.  MindManager8 is not "religious" and I had a paltry few "icons" to help make it visual.  iMindMap supposedly can import it, and they have way more visuals, but alas, iMM must not recognized the newer version of MM8

 

MJ. Smith:

One of the ways I use mind maps is to build cross-references into webs such as the following. I then put notes on the links with my observations on how each verse affects my understanding of the whole. To make this appropriately sized, I used bread only rather than bread and wine. Colors indicate the number of levels from the base verse. I would love it if Logos were, in the future, to offer the cross-reference as a single web with color coding of relations (e.g. quotation, allusion, deuterograph, parallel, shared image ....)

 

spitzerpl:

for what its worth, here is what I have so far. I'm still working on going through the whole Bible, then I have to clean it up, then I have to continue putting the verses in topics, but its a start. I'm using this more as a collection point of data then to create a visual display. What I'm planning on doing at this point is attaching the subjects as a child to the verse, getting rid of everything on the left, and then creating a separate mind map for the verses divided into the subjects they contribute to. From what I've seen so far the program I have is the best for what I'm doing now, but that i might want to use a pay program when I'm ready to prettify the final product.

Alan Macgregor:

I have been mindmapping my sermons for about 6 years. When I used Windows I used an excellent program called MindGenius which is very intuitive. Since November I've been using a Mac and settled on a program called MindNode. This is less intuitive but is still pretty good. Here's an example from one of my recent sermons:

David Beard:

I agree, even if we could just download a graphic into Notes (like a JPEG file). This is the 1st time I have viewed this thread. Here is my take on this topic as a High School teacher.  Some of the "mind maps" in this thread are pretty complicated.  I have been trained by a company called "Thinking Maps" that is fairly small.  They use a simpler process that involve 8 basic cognitive processes tied to only 8 different graphic organizers that help students learn.  I have been using these thinking maps in my World History and Amer. Govt. classes, and they have been extremely helpful in getting the students to process information in these very "content-oriented" subject areas.  It is important to be able to teach all types of students from advanced to novice about the Bible. Personally I have been using these thinking maps in my own personal biblical studies. The following is an example of a Comparison and Contrast (one of the 8 basic cognitive processes) Thinking Map.. The pinkish text shows how John the Baptist and Jesus are similar, and the the text attached to each individual shows differences. The text in green highlight shows how to get a student into Level 2 or even Level 3 thinking...DAB 

Ken F Hill:

I have been working through the Learn Hebrew & Greek lessons.  I'm in the middle of the Hebrew video on word study, chasing down "council of the Lord" in Jeremiah 23:18 where "sod" is the word behind "council".  I started copying the notetaking in the video, using both Logos notes but also in freemind -- which I decided to try motivated by this thread.  I enjoyed the ability to quickly move nodes around and make visual connections.  And I was able to make links back to Logos -- to verses, Bible word study tool, searches, and notes.  I assume passage lists and other resources would be linkable too. (see image below - I hope it shows up OK.  It looks kind of small.)

Then I copied the note I made in freemind and pasted it into a Logos note.  That worked well, too, although I had to use another program like KeyNote or msWord to get better line spacing.  It comes in as an indented outline. (see 2nd image below)

Anyway, I'm glad I ran onto this thread.  I think I'm going to enjoy using freemind along with Logos.  Hopefully they will become more friendly with each other as time goes by.  I left a note on the freemind forums asking how to make refTagger work in freemind -- that would be very useful, as others have pointed out.

 

 

 

 

Hamilton Ramos:

Good morning, God bless you all:

Logos 6 is great, many good and interesting reviews can be found.

I want to suggest something that to me is a wish, hoping that L6 team look into the feasibility of developing certain functions.

With L6 no doubt the Bible can be studied better than ever, one can also look at the different perspectives other believers have on certain topics across time, and traditions.

What I think is missing, is the capability to create own visual indexes that can allow fast search and retrieval of the findings one has obtained through the superior search capabilities of L6.

As an example, I borrow a mind map found in: http://www.asq0511.org/Presentations/200503/200503.pdf

It would be great to be able to do mind maps like the one in the above figure within L6, also to be able to have hyperlinks in each of the geometric forms, and / or text, so that I can jump to another mind map.

Once I am in the sub mind map, I would like to be able to insert hyperlinks to the particular information from a resource that deals with the particular concept, (just like is done in favorites).

I would like then to have the capability of searching, both favorites and the mind maps to quickly find macro concepts that could take me to the related micro concepts where I could quickly click on the links that would take me to precise information spot within the resource that contains that information.

The leverage of technology should be used to facilitate quick finding and retrievability, and a visual index system like the one I am suggesting, allows that.

Notice that we are not only to read and understand the Bible, but also act on it, and to make disciples.

An editable visual index in the mind map format that allows hyperlinking to particular information in resources is in my opinion a good way to facilitate usability of the information.

God bless, and kind regards.

These are all rather old posts. What is the current user attitude towards this sort of visualization? Is there still a need for integration or have we all found satisfactory work flow using 3rd party software? or are you using a method of linkage/personal books to put them "in Logos"?

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 8:27 AM

Wow, thanks again MJ for completely saturating my appetite. I have never heard of this type of visualization software. Which one of these would you recommend for Windows now, since you mentioned that these were old posts? And where could one get some basic training on this process?

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Richard Villanueva | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 8:30 AM

Awesome! As a novice Mind-Mapper I really appreciate this!  I love mapping out a several week sermon through mind mapping to keep the overall picture of what I'm trying to communicate. These are very helpful (and some are quite extensive!!)

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 1:22 PM

James Taylor:
And where could one get some basic training on this process?

1. Wikipedia article on Mind maps

2. Mind mapping blog

3. Mind Mapping for Dummies

Software:

1. Freeplane

2. Inspiration 9

3. TheBrain

there are others that work well as well - it depends on the style of mind map you wish to make, how polished you want it to look, what interface you find most intuitive, what formats you need to be able to export ...

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 2:10 PM

Excellent  Thanks MJ

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2015 3:30 PM

Additionally, anyone with an iPad may want to investigate iThoughts.

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Hamilton Ramos | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2016 5:56 AM

Hi MJ, God bless:

I just found this thread, I think is awesome.

Looking for ways to do a visual index with mind maps I was taken to the following interesting pages:

http://www.globethics.net/library/browse-the-reference-books 

https://prezi.com/vfylxlu-swhz/concept-map-for-theology-majors-at-smu/  

http://spiritualityforthevineyard.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-national-standards-concept-map.html 

http://www.usccb.org/upload/co-workers-vineyard-lay-ecclesial-ministry-2005.pdf 

http://www.docear.org/2014/01/15/comprehensive-comparison-of-reference-managers-mendeley-vs-zotero-vs-docear/

https://www.mindmeister.com/170005540/four-pillars-of-catechism-for-the-catholic-church

http://rickthomas.net/mind-mapping-a-roadmap-which-reflects-life-choices/ 

Now, imagine that in the "four-pillars-of-catechism-for-the-catholic-church" mind map, I can also place hyperlinks that would take me to the particular  locations in L7 resources (e.g. living the catechism, Catholic topical index, etc.) that have relevant information from my point of view.

https://blog.logos.com/2016/05/create-links-specific-logos-resources/

So far I am planning to use Scapple, because it integrates seamlessly with Scrivener.

https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scapple.php 

Hope this adds positively to the conversation.

Blessings.

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Shalin Siriwardhana | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 8 2018 11:14 PM

Also checkout this concept mapping tutorial to learn more about concept mapping. Its a comprehensive guide with templates and examples.

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