Alan Charles Gielczyk:What base package do you have?
Allen Browne:Something you might like to consider is upgrading to the Scholar's Library.
William Bingham:In an earlier posting I thought you said you have the TDNT.?
Rosie Perera:Yes, here's the post where you said you own Scholar's
Rosie Perera:I know you were particularly concerned about not buying duplicate resources in the past (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/11869.aspx). I also see that you were having some problem with TDNT not showing up in your library even though you owned it already: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/11372.aspx. Make sure you have fully resolved that issue (and check to be sure you've got TWOT too; you should have it) instead of going out and buying them now.
Michael Sullivan:5. The TDNT is very reliable for Greek (Classical and Hellenistic), LXX and NT word usages.6. Do NOT rely on it for what it says about Judaism.
How about NIDNTT and NIDOTT? I read some of its sample and found that it seems great. And actually I pre-order it before. And I want to make sure that it is the one I need or not.
And, do you have other suggestions on a theological dictionary (of OT or NT) that is out of the list suggested by Logos but is better?
Hi Terry,
Regarding my post - I can understand your concern about believing bloggers. I was just trying to provide a brief summary of Kittel, which I thought Prof. Hoffman did well. I guess my brevity was too brief.
I have never met Prof. Hoffman, except on forums where he answered some Bibleworks and Logos questions for me concerning lexicons. From the little I know of his theology, I know that there would be major points where we would disagree, but when it comes to his experience with Greek and greek resources, his reviews are quite thorough, and his use and experience of various lexicons is exstensive. I read a much more thorough and academic review of Kittel (which I believe he wrote, but I am not sure) which basically makes the same points the article I quoted previously make. The quote was part of a much larger article that was summarizing the differences - strengthes and weaknesses - of various lexicons. I believe that this particular work was meant only to be a summary for students, and not a scholarly review.
In any case, I was just trying to be brief in my post, hence why I quoted Prof. Hoffman's summary. However your concerns are valid - we should read all things with discernment, especially the internet.
Cheers
Michael Sullivan:Regarding my post - I can understand your concern about believing bloggers. I was just trying to provide a brief summary of Kittel, which I thought Prof. Hoffman did well. I guess my brevity was too brie
Michael, thank you for your post, it made me aware of possible problems with TDNT, for which I have a bias. There is nothing more impressive to a young Christian learning Greek than to see those 10 volumes on taking up a full shelf in his Pastor's office
Michael Sullivan:The quote was part of a much larger article that was summarizing the differences - strengthes and weaknesses - of various lexicons.
Could you give me the link?
Thanks.
Hi Kolen,
I can't link precisely to the document because it is a word file and I am not sure how to link to hyperlink word files.
The hyperlink to the document is found here: http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/search/label/lexicon. When you get to the discussion about the TDNT and see the word "drawbacks" underlined - that hyperlink will take you to the article I mentioned.
One caveat I want to mention: the page that describes Lexicons also suggests other books. I, personally, do not agree with all his recommendations - especially when it comes to commentaries. I am a confessional Lutheran, where as professor Hoffman describes himself as a liberal Lutheran. Theologically speaking, there is a great distance between the two. Just to be clear that I am in no way endorising his suggestions. I am just providing a handy reference.
Thanks so much!
Rosie,
I am glad you post on this board. Always helpful.
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Bohuslav Wojnar: Rosie Perera:But hey, at least I got to see the USA-CAN Hockey game yesterday, and it was awesome! Off-Topic: ...Rossie, wait for the USA - Czech hockey duel. It will be the proper fight... (at finals?)
Rosie Perera:But hey, at least I got to see the USA-CAN Hockey game yesterday, and it was awesome!
Off-Topic: ...Rossie, wait for the USA - Czech hockey duel. It will be the proper fight... (at finals?)
Oh, so sad. Finland beat the Czech team, so we don't get to see USA - Czech.
By the way, Czech is the best name for a men's hockey team, because they check all the time. Hee hee!
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Rosie Perera:Finland beat the Czech team
Yea, if only I was quiet. Let us turn the subject
Bohuslav
I hope resuming this post from 2010 make sense.
I love my new buy NIDOTTE, so much that I bought NIDNTT.
Now i'm curious if I should add BDAG, HALOT, EDNT, TDNT (or the concise one), or any IVP.
I've read all the post on the forum, and still I cannot get from people who have some of them, which one would be nice to get. I love TLOT, generally I like DBL, BDB and NASB, but the fact I don't translate seems to push me to use more Theological Dictionaries than Lexical Dictionaries.
So, your opinion, which Theological one can I add to TLOT, NIDOTTE, NIDNTT, and get something more than I already see?
Ps. I am struggling with the issue to decide if I want to buy EDNT or TDNT, and in the second case, if the little kittel would be enough
Here one http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13331/103059.aspx#103059
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14441/110885.aspx#110885
Paolo russo: Here one http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13331/103059.aspx#103059
just hit "space" once after posting a link
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Paolo russo: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14441/110885.aspx#110885
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Thx!
Paolo, you're driving us crazy! Normally the standard answer for hebrew/greek is BDAG/HALOT (which Logos packages together to allow saving money).
However I'll admit BDAG and HALOT do their best to confuse, if one is not somewhat familiar with the problem.
Frankly, if I were you, I'd want a basic solid lexicon: my favorite I use in church for quick lookup is AMG Complete Word Studies (there's one for the OT and one for the NT). They're quick, not fancy. And affordable too.
Regarding more theological resources, of course you want TWOT and TDNT. Both are very wordy; definitely more wordy than your new NIDOTTE for example. I rarely use either one, though I have them.
"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."
Thanks, I checked https://www.logos.com/product/9438/amg-bible-essentials and looks so promising and rewarding. But there is not mobile version, which I use.
i will consider for later use. TWOT? Logos doesnt sell it anymore :-(