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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Feb 17 2016 6:55 PM

My Apologetics class is also studying reincarnation.  I did a search on this but got very little information.  In fact all I got was Heb. 9:27.  I would like to search the journals, etc. and find something.  Any tips?

Thanks,

Susan Murphy

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 17 2016 7:24 PM

I'd try Factbook, Topic Guide, and Reincarnation and Christianity by Robert Morey.

You could also try a heading field search in headings reincarnation.

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David Achorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 17 2016 7:26 PM

There is a cheap book here that has some information.  I read it awhile back and found a couple useful things.  

https://www.logos.com/product/10522/reincarnation-and-christianity 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 17 2016 7:26 PM

Suggest searching everything for:

<Topic Reincarnation> OR Reincarnation OR Metempsychosis

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 17 2016 10:23 PM

The Early Church Fathers will fill in the argument in the early church over the concept:


Ecclesiastical Writers
  St. Irenaeus Adv. Haer. 2.33.1–2
  Tertullian Apol. 48
  Origen Comm. Jo. 6.7
  Lactantius Lact., Epitome 36
  Arnobius Arnob., Adv. Gent. 2.14–15
  St. Basil the Great Hom. in Hexaem. 8.2
  St. Gregory of Nyssa De hom. opif. 28.3
  St. Ambrose De excessu fratris 2.65–66
  St. John Chrysostom Hom. Jo. 2.3

  See also: Soul; Immortality; Superstition


Andrew Jones et al., eds., Catholic Topical Index (Bellingham, WA: Verbum, 2013).

For some of the scripture used for a pro stance:

REINCARNATION. we die once Heb. 9:27; alleged proofs of: Matt. 11:14; 17:3, 12; 27:49; Mark 9:13; Luke 9:8; John 1:21

James Swanson and Orville Nave, New Nave’s Topical Bible (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1994).

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 18 2016 1:08 AM

This one looks promising:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Reincarnation-Sensation-Norman-Geisler/dp/1592447368

Unfortunately not available in Logos :-(

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 1:52 AM

Susan W. Murphy:

My Apologetics class is also studying reincarnation.  I did a search on this but got very little information.  In fact all I got was Heb. 9:27.  I would like to search the journals, etc. and find something.  Any tips?

Thanks,

Susan Murphy

Do you know if the Tutor plans to invite any speakers that have actually been reincarnated?

I would be interested to hear how the class goes!

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 3:25 AM

Susan, if you own IVP dictionaries on the NT (Jesus and the Gospels, NT background, Paul and his letters, Later NT) you should find interesting results from a simple search for "reincarnation". In particular -- although I am not sure whether this would be interesting to you for your purposes -- you can read on the beliefs of the Greeks and Romans with regard to reincarnation (often in contrast to resurrection). This provides a very helpful background for understanding not only the fact that the NT speaks of bodily resurrection, but also NOT of reincarnation, and that this was the message proclaimed in the Christian mission. Remember Acts 17 and the sneering at the idea of resurrection as soon as Paul mentioned it. Check also commentaries on this passage for possible background info). 

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 4:48 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

I'd try Factbook, Topic Guide, and Reincarnation and Christianity by Robert Morey.

You could also try a heading field search in headings reincarnation.

 Thanks for your great tips.  I read the book "Reincarnation" by Robert Morey.  It is tremendous.  Also, I appreciate your screen prints.  They are very helpful.

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 4:52 AM

Francis:

Susan, if you own IVP dictionaries on the NT (Jesus and the Gospels, NT background, Paul and his letters, Later NT) you should find interesting results from a simple search for "reincarnation". In particular -- although I am not sure whether this would be interesting to you for your purposes -- you can read on the beliefs of the Greeks and Romans with regard to reincarnation (often in contrast to resurrection). This provides a very helpful background for understanding not only the fact that the NT speaks of bodily resurrection, but also NOT of reincarnation, and that this was the message proclaimed in the Christian mission. Remember Acts 17 and the sneering at the idea of resurrection as soon as Paul mentioned it. Check also commentaries on this passage for possible background info). 

I'll check into this.  I do not have the IVP dictionaries but may get some of them.  I'm learning all kind of things.  This is amazing.

Thanks for the tips.

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 4:54 AM

David Achorn:

There is a cheap book here that has some information.  I read it awhile back and found a couple useful things.  

https://www.logos.com/product/10522/reincarnation-and-christianity 

 

David,

I purchased the book and it is very helpful.  Will be using this in my small group.

Many thanks,

Susan

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 5:05 AM

Mike Binks,

I think you're joking about the "Tutor", but I'm not sure.

Actually, I have a Buddhist manicurist that I've been witnessing to about 2 years and I know she believes in reincarnation.  I'm going to ask her this question.  Does she actually know anybody that's been reincarnated?  She's actually one of the hardest people I've ever witnessed to.  I gave her a Vietnamese Bible and she gave it away to a relative.  I was so disappointed, but I'm not giving up on her.  All the tips are really helping.  I feel like I'm getting a Master's degree with everyone's help through Logos.

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 5:07 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus,

I printed out your post on Reincarnation and I'll be using it.

It's very helpful.

Thanks,

Susan Murphy

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 5:09 AM

Jan Krohn:

This one looks promising:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Reincarnation-Sensation-Norman-Geisler/dp/1592447368

Unfortunately not available in Logos :-(

Jan,

I love to read things by Norman Geisler but I think I'm going to wait and see if Logos adds it to their books by Geisler and then get it.  

Thanks for the info,

Susan

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 5:13 AM

MJ. Smith:

The Early Church Fathers will fill in the argument in the early church over the concept:


Ecclesiastical Writers
  St. Irenaeus Adv. Haer. 2.33.1–2
  Tertullian Apol. 48
  Origen Comm. Jo. 6.7
  Lactantius Lact., Epitome 36
  Arnobius Arnob., Adv. Gent. 2.14–15
  St. Basil the Great Hom. in Hexaem. 8.2
  St. Gregory of Nyssa De hom. opif. 28.3
  St. Ambrose De excessu fratris 2.65–66
  St. John Chrysostom Hom. Jo. 2.3

  See also: Soul; Immortality; Superstition


Andrew Jones et al., eds., Catholic Topical Index (Bellingham, WA: Verbum, 2013).

For some of the scripture used for a pro stance:

REINCARNATION. we die once Heb. 9:27; alleged proofs of: Matt. 11:14; 17:3, 12; 27:49; Mark 9:13; Luke 9:8; John 1:21

James Swanson and Orville Nave, New Nave’s Topical Bible (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1994).

 

M.J. Smith, I'm checking this out.  It is very helpful.  Thanks so much,

Susan

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 1:39 PM

Francis:
and that this was the message proclaimed in the Christian mission

Not entirely true. Super quick web search for the gnostics http://reluctant-messenger.com/origen10.html

For a comparative religion review of the early Christian stance see http://www.comparativereligion.com/reincarnation3.html This is valuable for its discussion of why reincarnation cannot easily fit into Christianity.

Note that the term transmigration of souls is more common than reincarnation in the early writings, I think ... I haven't actually gotten any statistics.

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 19 2016 2:29 PM

MJ. Smith:
Not entirely true

I refer to the apostolic message and period.

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