BUG: no BDAG for covenant?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Mar 21 2016 2:10 PM

RE: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/124263/811749.aspx#811749

Unfortunately, I can't explain why the BDAG doesn't show for this word.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 2:16 PM

It's showing correctly for me. Perhaps a BDAG index problem?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 2:19 PM

For the OP as well? Would you check the post I referred to at the top of my post? Thanks very much ...

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 2:24 PM

MJ. Smith:

For the OP as well? Would you check the post I referred to at the top of my post? Thanks very much ...

I did check the post, but I felt there wasn't enough information there from the OP for me to contribute helpfully.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 3:19 PM

BDAG is correctly showing for me.

MJ. - where do you have BDAG prioritised?

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David Roth | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 3:24 PM

Hi.   I will try to give more info. I type Luke 22 in the command box, and that opens ESV on the right half of the screen.  The left half is blank.

I put the point on the word covenant.   It opens a strip along the bottom with lemma and stuff.  There is Strongs with a link.  But it does not open an vertical panel on the far right with BDAG.

So I clcik on guides, type Luke 22:20 in the other box and pick Exegetical Guide.  It makes a list of variants, grammars, and word by word.  No lexicons.

Does that help?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 3:49 PM

David Roth:
Hi.   I will try to give more info

Very helpful

David Roth:
I type Luke 22 in the command box, and that opens ESV on the right half of the screen.  The left half is blank.

Understood

David Roth:
I put the point on the word covenant.   It opens a strip along the bottom with lemma and stuff.  There is Strongs with a link.  But it does not open an vertical panel on the far right with BDAG.

This is the "reverse interlinear ribbon" - it is toggled using the "interlinear" button outlined in blue in the screenshot below. Clicking on a word causes that word to take focus in the ribbon

You can control what rows are displayed by right-clicking the column on the far left but you are correct it doesn't show a list of lexicons.

If you right-click on the word in the text you get the "context menu". Ensure the lemma is selected on the right-hand side and scroll down on the left and you get to your five highest prioritised lexicons

Clicking on a lexicon will open to the correct entry

David Roth:
So I clcik on guides, type Luke 22:20 in the other box and pick Exegetical Guide.  It makes a list of variants, grammars, and word by word.  No lexicons.

The lexicons are included in the word-by-word section against each word as in my screenshot in the post above. Do you see them there?

David Roth:
Does that help?

HopefullySmile

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 3:53 PM

MJ. Smith:
Unfortunately, I can't explain why the BDAG doesn't show for this word.

BDAG does not appear in my Top five lexicons with Greek Headwords that have διαθήκη (personally have three discussion and two analytical lexicons prioritized higher than BDAG).

Steps for screen shot (with Information explanatory notes):

  1. Opened an English Bible with Reverse Interlinear tagging to Luke 22:20
  2. Right Click on Testament (or Covenant) in Luke 22:20
    • Lemma
    • Bible Word Study
    • Clicked more > to expand Lemma list to show lexicons in prioritized with Greek Headword indexing that have διαθήκη
  3. Tools => Information
  4. Right Click on Testament (or Covenant) in Luke 22:20
    • Lemma
    • Power Lookup to show several lines of definition text from lexicons in prioritized order.
    • Drag Power Lookup Tab to show more definition text

Because BDAG is not in my top five lexicons with Greek Headwords, can use Power Lookup and Bible Word Study to open BDAG.  Also could open one of my higher prioritized lexicons followed by using left arrow in that lexicon to switch to the next highest prioritized lexicon.  Exegetical Guide for Luke 22:20 has more > list for lemmas than can be expanded so can click BDAG

Thankful for Outline Formatting in BDAG:

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David Roth | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 21 2016 6:13 PM

Dear Smiles.   Thank you for the reply.  I am more confused.  But, I am grateful that you took time and effort.  Maybe I can grasp it later.   Thanks again.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 22 2016 1:36 PM

Hi David

Did my post above help explain what you were seeing and how to move forward?

Graham

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David Roth | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 22 2016 2:12 PM

Yes.  Then I had to figure out how to attach because it want to upload media from the comp.  So I have decided I press print screen, (that was a problem, too, to learn.  I would press it and then look for my printer to spit it out) and then save that to my desktop.  Click the link, then find the screen shot on the desktop. then go.

So this is more than a logos problem.   Some one else showed me that I can find the lexicon under Word for Word.  So I am going with that for now.

I guess a lot of people can figure this out faster than I can, for all the good a doctorate does you.

Nowadays it is not enough to be smart.  You have to be smarter than the machine.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 22 2016 3:57 PM

David Roth:
So I have decided I press print screen, (that was a problem, too, to learn.  I would press it and then look for my printer to spit it out) and then save that to my desktop.  Click the link, then find the screen shot on the desktop. then go.

Logos wiki has => https://wiki.logos.com/Screenshot that mentions keyboard shortcut: Alt+PrntScr send screen print to clipboard, which is useful for capturing screen shots with dialog boxes open.   Likewise had to learn how to capture screen images, save, then attach to a forum reply.

David Roth:
... I guess a lot of people can figure this out faster than I can, ...

Thankful for many friendly forum discussions and using Logos; have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn.  Using Logos effectively has a learning curve. Embarrassed for my number of times to relearn items (growing older has its opportunities; some of them are pleasant).   Replicating forum issues has helped my repetition and comfort using Logos.

David Roth:
I am more confused.

In a physical library, books can be stacked so a physical search starts with the first book, then the second, ...  Books with information for more follow-up go into one stack (or favorite book shelf) while less informative books go elsewhere.

Library allows resources to be prioritized so searches go to highest prioritized resource first (like favorite books with useful information).

After reading definitions in many lexicons, have chosen my prioritization preferences.

For example, my highest prioritized lexicon is Lexham Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament that shows διαθήκη was classified by Louw &Nida into two semantic domains plus has six forms used in the New Testament.

My second highest prioritized lexicon is Lexham Theological Wordbook that has διαθήκη within larger context of Circumcision and Covenant

Apologies since BDAG has a plethora of abbreviations (and semi colon delimiters) so effective use is currently a bit beyond my current Greek skills:

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