MJ. Smith: elnwood: then how come FL had the leeway to keep send-to-kindle another couple weeks? Because when companies make contractual changes such as these there is usually a transition period. We do not know what the "drop dead" date is for Faithlife.
elnwood: then how come FL had the leeway to keep send-to-kindle another couple weeks?
Because when companies make contractual changes such as these there is usually a transition period. We do not know what the "drop dead" date is for Faithlife.
That doesn't make sense. If there was a different "drop dead" date, why did Fathlife choose March 31st initially? Why not choose the drop date itself? Or did they have another reason for cutting us off sooner?
elnwood:That doesn't make sense
Er .. ah ... have you worked in a business that had dependencies on other businesses? In payroll for example, when banks merged we had to do a conversion of all employees accounts that had direct deposit into the bank that was "disappearing". We had a drop dead date where the new bank would not be able to process our direct deposits. We had the payroll before that which was our last possible chance to make the change and handle problems if there were a mass failure. Then we had the target payroll where if there was a problem, no one would even notice. Guess what we scheduled for.
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MJ. Smith: elnwood:That doesn't make sense Er .. ah ... have you worked in a business that had dependencies on other businesses? In payroll for example, when banks merged we had to do a conversion of all employees accounts that had direct deposit into the bank that was "disappearing". We had a drop dead date where the new bank would not be able to process our direct deposits. We had the payroll before that which was our last possible chance to make the change and handle problems if there were a mass failure. Then we had the target payroll where if there was a problem, no one would even notice. Guess what we scheduled for.
Yes, if you have to direct deposit money, and it fails, you could have a major financial crisis. And this is analogous to allowing Logos customers to download books to Kindle because ... why?
There is no money involved, so there's nothing catastophic that could happen. And a typical "mass failure" for computers is that a server would go down, but if anything, that would actually help the goal of disabling that feature. What sort of "mass failure" are you thinking about that would necessitate Logos disabling send-to-kindle early?
elnwood:Yes, if you have to direct deposit money, and it fails, you could have a major financial crisis. And this is analogous to allowing Logos customers to download books to Kindle because ... why?
Because of exactly what happened ... the email warning users failed to go out. And to insure that the software without the capability is vetted independently of the actual pulling of the plug ... to avoid conflicts with other activities ...
FL still has not issued an official statement why the feature will be retired. Up to that point you are just speculating. And just shifting the blame to Amazon does not help at all at this point. FL should really explain whats going on and what they´re gonna do about this situation. Imho the best solution would be to, as other users already suggested, offer an option to send the books to your personal email adress as a .mobi/.epub/.azw --> That way you can just forward them to your kindle yourself. As I see it there should be no copyright issues, because you bought the license and other Bookshops do it like that as well. Also I think such an option would not be hard to integrate at all into Logos.
If FL tells us they are gonna do that, I would be happy. Otherwise I´m just sending my whole library (>1´500 books) to my Kindle during the next two weeks and copy the Files on my Computer, just to be sure...
Kernel Sanders:FL still has not issued an official statement why the feature will be retired.
The official announcement of that step started with the official statement why:
Phil Gons (Faithlife):Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature
points to consider:
For all those reasons I don't think Faithlife is playing bad here, but don't expect to get more details about things we can't do anything about in the firstplace.
Kernel Sanders:Imho the best solution would be to, as other users already suggested, offer an option to send the books to your personal email adress as a .mobi/.epub/.azw --> That way you can just forward them to your kindle yourself.
This solution exists, you can just use a S2K printer or print to a file you then bring over to your kindle in the format you like. I think that the current size limit for that is probably a very user-friendly reading of the contracts between Faithlife and the publishers, which I am pretty certain do not allow the proliferation of non-DRM'd mobi files.
Kernel Sanders:Otherwise I´m just sending my whole library (>1´500 books) to my Kindle during the next two weeks
This would probably kill the service for all other users that want to use the grace-period to bring over a couple of books they really want for some good reasons. Not the most Christian way of handling all this...
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NB.Mick: Not the most Christian way of handling all this...
Not the most Christian way of handling all this...
Interesting way to look at this. FL is first and foremost a business, involved with publishing / providing Christian material.
You can turn the "blame card" always on the other side, and accuse them of not being / acting Christian, when some party is not getting their acts together. But then the question might be asked, whether it is more "Christian" to charge more for identical books, when they are provided within the FL ecosystem, instead of, say Amazon.
In the end, if he bought most of his material to be read on a reading device outside of the FL / logos-world, and this option was clearly announced prior to buying into this system (as it was with L6), then why should he not use his right to recover what soon might be lost (and no, please not another lecture on how to use the print/export method and waste useful hours for something, that can be done in seconds...)