Outside the Bible, 3-volume set: Ancient Jewish Writings Related to Scripture

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016 7:22 PM

I know it's pretty expensive, but for those who are interested AND can afford these, they seem quite interesting to say the least.

Outside the Bible, 3-volume set: Ancient Jewish Writings Related to Scripture

Here are a few links if you're interested in more background:

About the book

Outside the Bible Launch Event, December 2013

JPS Schiffman Interview

Outside the Bible" and the Beginnings of Biblical Interpretation

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2016 7:32 PM

thank you.

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2016 7:33 PM

Anytime for you :)

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 9 2017 8:14 PM

Yes

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 13 2017 10:08 AM

HJ. van der Wal:

Indeed! It just goes to show that Faithlife does pay attention to suggestions. Steep price, although the Pre-Pub does at least undercut prices elsewhere, and it appears to be a unique resource, particularly in its extensive introductions and annotations (3,302 pages with translations and everything, according to Faithlife/Logos).

David DeSilva's review and comments are worth reading:

https://www.amazon.com/Outside-Bible-3-set-Scripture/dp/0827609337

Here are a few other reviews:

https://abramkj.com/2015/09/07/outside-the-bible-jps-3000-pages-in-accordance/ 

https://www.academia.edu/17472239/Review_of_Outside_the_Bible_Ancient_Jewish_Writings_Related_to_Scripture 

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/reviews/outside-the-bible/

http://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/book/outside-the-bible-3-volume-set-ancient-jewish-writings-related-to-scripture 

http://seforim.blogspot.com/2014/07/review-of-outside-bible-ancient-jewish.html  

Some info and reviews are posted on the publisher's site:

https://jps.org/books/outside-the-bible-3-volume-set/ 

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Daniel Andujar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 17 2017 1:53 PM

I own the hardback 3 set and it cost me $235.00USD when it first came out.  I placed the order when the set was offered during pre-publishing in 2013 and I waited one year to received my books.  Amazon.com offers the 3 set for $260.00 which is more than what Faithlife is offering and you can use the LOGOS features of the software.  I'm not advertising for LOGOS but this set is a must for those who are interested in this subject.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 17 2017 3:03 PM

I guess I fit under Milkman's 'not' group. I read all the reviews. And JPS is certainly well regarded. 

But if you have a fairly complete Logos ancient library, where's the value?

Certainly, for many (most?) who don't own such, this would be nice. 

I guess I'm not enthused, though some of the new 'firsts' translations would be nice (eg Ps-Ph).


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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 5:22 PM
I'd really like to see some momentum on this resource. It's invaluable for those interesting in Early Judaism.

For book reviews and more visit sojotheo.com 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 7:57 PM

It truly is a wonderful work, I've used it on several occasions and I am very happy to have it. Thankfully I got it in my other main Bible program. I hope you can get it in Logos ASAP. 

-dan 

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 8:22 PM

I have it in print. But, boy, would it be nice to have in Logos. 

For book reviews and more visit sojotheo.com 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 9:12 PM

It was released in Accordance in 2015. I am a bit surprised that it hasn’t made in into Logos by now. But the PrePub system can be quite a hurdle sometimes.  

-Dan

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 19 2018 6:05 AM

Dan Francis:

But the PrePub system can be quite a hurdle sometimes.  

PrePub works well for mainstream customer products. [There are enough current customers who promise to buy it to pay for it]

However for products needed to gain new customers in smaller groups: the needed products do not pass PrePub and we do not get the new customers as we do not have the products they want so they do not join us.  And then we wonder why small group XXX customers does not grow.  The answer: the needed products to get new customers failed to pass PrePub.  [[Catch 22]]   Perhaps some of the smaller groups need to identify what is needed to gain customers from that group and the publisher needs to make them available.  Problem is that the publisher would need to eat the upfront cost of dozens of products to get each small group interested. [[without a GOLD level package of just that small groups product they will not come - not a package with just some of what they want but one filled 100% with items that group wants]]  [[And then some of the current customers often see the works of some small groups as heresy.]] 

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Ken Rutherford | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2018 9:20 PM

I've pre-order it along with other titles that seem stuck in the Pre-Pub limbo realm of continued non-existence. 

I noticed Keener's 2014 update to his IVP NT Background which he couldn't wait to update due to errors he himself acknowledged as his thinking has matured is also in Accordance but not even given a pre-pub on Logos even though I have suggested it.

I am not sure what to solution is.

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Ken Rutherford | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 4:04 AM

It is moving up in Pre-Pub. It just needs some more support!

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Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 30 2018 1:19 AM

Thanks for the comments in this thread. Its really helpful to read what people think about such a resource. Consequently, I've now added my support to this pre-pub and hope that it gets through the process. Keep well  Paul 

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Ken Rutherford | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 17 2018 8:07 PM

Thanks to all! This has seen a recent surge in activity and is not only in the "safe" zone of orange but seems to be on its way to being published finally!

God Bless!

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