What is it? A new “Sermon” document type that can be created and opened from the Documents menu.
This document defines a set of document-like artifacts that cluster around single speech presentation given during a church service. These artifacts are:
What is it for? The Sermon document interacts with the larger Faithlife ecosystem that already exists to support sermon presentation (Proclaim), provide public access to that sermon (Soundfaith), and informs a group of the sermon's existence (Faithlife Groups).
The Sermon document allows the author(s)to organize their thoughts into a document using a familiar word processing interface (not unlike Google documents). During the sermon, this document can either have been exported to Proclaim, PowerPoint, or to rich text for use in other word processing and desktop publishing software. After the sermon's delivery, the document is archived locally and can be searched by its content or metadata.
How does it work? The Sermon document is a standard Logos document type, so it works like any other Logos document, including sync.
How do you use it?
The Sermon document operates much like a standard word processing application:
However, it has some special and unique features
In a general sense, the ideal use case/scenario goes like this:
How do you identify the answer to a question while creating a sermon so it can be hidden or displayed on the handout?
Tim Hensler:How do you identify the answer to a question while creating a sermon so it can be hidden or displayed on the handout?
Select the answer text and then click "fill-in" from the popup menu
Jacob Cerone: What is it?
What is it?
I noticed that your screenshot is exposing another new document type that is not available in Logos 7. I am wondering if its possible that this was inadvertant?
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Jonathan: Jacob Cerone: What is it? I noticed that your screenshot is exposing another new document type that is not available in Logos 7. I am wondering if its possible that this was inadvertant?
Morph Grid?
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Thank you, Graham. This is REALLY cool. Using a series of "question" fields (each line on the example below), I was able to create a question with 4 multiple choice answers, with indication of which was correct as the "fill-in" answers that can be hidden on the Handout.
WOW - the possibilities...
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Thank you for this explanation Jacob. For me, this is a great addition to the product. One question - will the Sermon document be available on the mobile versions of the software? I usually take a paper Bible and iPad into the pulpit with me, and preach from the iPad, so it is only of real use if it is synced to the iPad and available to me to read on it.
At first glance, and a little bit of playing around, this appears to fill in a number of the gaps in my preaching workflow that are currently covered by running between apps and copying/pasting: I really like it. If it fills in the gap of allowing me to preach from my iPad as well, that would be fantastic.
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Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan:I noticed that your screenshot is exposing another new document type that is not available in Logos 7.
This is a Logos Now function. All the lines marked with an asterisk at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/129206.aspx require Logos Now (including Sermon Editor).
I apologize for the confusion. That document is a tool that we are currently developing and working on. It is not a part of Logos 7. I have removed that screenshot and updated accordingly.
John Kight: Morph Grid?
Yes, that's what I was referring to. I was trying to be subtle though in case they were intending to keep that under wraps for some reason.
Tim Hensler: Hi Jonathan, Jonathan:I noticed that your screenshot is exposing another new document type that is not available in Logos 7. This is a Logos Now function. All the lines marked with an asterisk at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/129206.aspx require Logos Now (including Sermon Editor).
I'm a Logos Now subscriber, but don't have access to the Morph Grid document type.
Tim Hensler: This is a Logos Now function. All the lines marked with an asterisk at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/129206.aspx require Logos Now (including Sermon Editor).
The asterisk in that post represents features new to the Logos 7 release.
Tim Hensler: This is REALLY cool. Using a series of "question" fields (each line on the example below), I was able to create a question with 4 multiple choice answers, with indication of which was correct as the "fill-in" answers that can be hidden on the Handout.
Yes - it is very nice. And it extends very nicely when creating and exporting slides.
I included the following line in a sermon document (all on one line at the moment as automatic generation of slides doesn't work across multiple lines at the moment so I can't quite reproduce your example)
Then when I export the slides to Proclaim or PowerPoint three separate slides are generated automatically (you can see that there are three slides indicated in the sermon document). The screenshot below is from PowerPoint
I think this is very nice
GregW:One question - will the Sermon document be available on the mobile versions of the software? I usually take a paper Bible and iPad into the pulpit with me, and preach from the iPad, so it is only of real use if it is synced to the iPad and available to me to read on it.
The sermon document is not yet available on mobile, but we know this is something a lot of people will want to see.
In the meantime, if you have WiFi in your church, you could Export your sermon document to SoundFaith.com then load that on your iPad. (With the latest iPad, you can put Safari and Logos Bible side-by-side to have a Bible text up too.)
This workaround isn't perfect (not all the Bible links open in the Bible app, it doesn't have an optimised reading view, etc.) but those are issues we want to address (and we're interested in any other feedback you have about the experience on SoundFaith).
Bradley Grainger (Faithlife): GregW:One question - will the Sermon document be available on the mobile versions of the software? I usually take a paper Bible and iPad into the pulpit with me, and preach from the iPad, so it is only of real use if it is synced to the iPad and available to me to read on it. The sermon document is not yet available on mobile, but we know this is something a lot of people will want to see. In the meantime, if you have WiFi in your church, you could Export your sermon document to SoundFaith.com then load that on your iPad. (With the latest iPad, you can put Safari and Logos Bible side-by-side to have a Bible text up too.) This workaround isn't perfect (not all the Bible links open in the Bible app, it doesn't have an optimised reading view, etc.) but those are issues we want to address (and we're interested in any other feedback you have about the experience on SoundFaith).
Thank you for the quick response Bradley - I can also print/export it to Word, which is what I'll probably do. We don't have reliable wifi at our church building, so I like to be certain I've got the full notes with me before I start. I'll probably continue to do that until syncing with the iPad is available. It still saves me the trouble of compiling sermon files as Personal books and putting the data table into it before importing it to Excel! Being a cautious sort of guy I will probably also continue to save my sermon files as Word documents anyway in the short term.
GregW:Thank you for the quick response Bradley - I can also print/export it to Word, which is what I'll probably do
And once you have it in a Word document you can import into a Logos Notes document and then use that in the Bible app on the iPad.
This allows having Notes on one half of a split screen and a Bible open on another.
Again - not perfect - but a good way of working for now.
Wow.....sermon editor is a great idea, but I've got an additional (important) step in my workflow. I've become a huge fan of mind mapping tools to structure sermons and lessons. For a while, I used markdown to outline using headings (as per the editor) in a text editor before writing but about a year ago started using mind mapping software to work through my initial structure. I'd love for the sermon editor to be able to import an OPML file from a mind mapping application into the editor.
Clint Cozier:For a while, I used markdown to outline using headings (as per the editor) in a text editor before writing but about a year ago started using mind mapping software to work through my initial structure. I'd love for the sermon editor to be able to import an OPML file from a mind mapping application into the editor.
We'll have someone evaluate OPML. Thanks for the suggestion!
Clint Cozier: I'd love for the sermon editor to be able to import an OPML file from a mind mapping application into the editor.
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Great idea, Clint. The Sermon Editor is really tempting to incorporate into my workflow (especially on those Sundays when I use visuals), but I'd never leave mind mapping. :)
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This looks great!
Eventually it would be nice to have a quick way to view the outline of the sermon.
I see that I can do that by adding every heading to the handout, but it would be nice to have a way to do that automatically or have an additional tab that is automatically populated with the outline based on the headings.