Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature (12 vols.)

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Oct 6 2016 3:15 PM

https://www.logos.com/product/8519/cyclopaedia-of-biblical-theological-and-ecclesiastical-literature

 Bidding closes at 12:00pm (PST) on Friday, 10/14/2016

This is both a reminder  for anyone who hasn't got a bid in and a question for anyone who may know? It is a part of numerous 7 base packages. I have not yet got my copy anyone know when this will be available for downloading???

-Dan

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2016 3:34 PM

Thanks for the reminder. I just noticed I own it already 👍 Is coming to my library soon!

DAL

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2016 4:45 PM

DAL:
Is coming to my library soon!

Me too! Yes

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Jerome Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 7 2016 9:05 AM

This will surely be a most welcome, highly valued, Bible study resource.  I have had it in hard copy for many years, but look forward to having it in Logos software for easier searching, if they do it right, and I think they will.  I want to be able to search for all the references to a specific Bible verse, for one thing.

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Yasmin Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 7 2016 9:37 AM

I'm wondering if I should place a bid on this ...

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 7 2016 2:48 PM

Yasmin Stephen:

I'm wondering if I should place a bid on this ...

 Well Logos claims it's not available for under 1000 bucks anywhere,  so it would be now or never.

DAL

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 7 2016 3:24 PM

I signed up, but I'm depending on Jerome's advice ... he's been a good judge of value.

I wonder where Baker Academic sits ... and am impressed the Japan one goes for $2k. A missionary left his behind ... too expensive to ship!

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 7 2016 3:26 PM

Yasmin if I didn't have it coming as part of my Anglican library 7 I would bid on it in a second. This is truly a monumental work that contains a vast amount of information. 

Dan

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Ken Hicks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 10:50 AM

Now that this set is in production I wonder how long it will take to ship? I ask because it seems that with Logos 7 several pre-pubs/community pricing books/sets were sold with base packages. Perhaps this has been done before and I just failed to notice? Seems like an odd move to sell something that may/may not make it our of pre-pub/community pricing.

My hope is what it is already at or near completion given its inclusion in those packages. I may be (and often am) wrong.  :-)

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 12:13 PM

The practice goes back at least to ancient days (but not the ancient of days)... L4.  They just cleared a couple L4 datasets.  Which speak to Rick & Co's integrity.

The problem with the 2 year cycle is them trying to keep up with promised resources.  

I got the Cyclopaeda email, saw the bid price, and thought, wow, Jerome sure better be right on this one.  

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 12:17 PM

Ken Hicks:
it seems that with Logos 7 several pre-pubs/community pricing books/sets were sold with base packages. Perhaps this has been done before and I just failed to notice? Seems like an odd move to sell something that may/may not make it our of pre-pub/community pricing.
Yes this is pretty common with the release of Logos packages. The benefit of them not just shipping it out is that others who don't buy the base packages can still get it at a discount, but the titles included in Base Packages are definitely going to make it all the way through.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 12:31 PM

Dan Francis:

This is truly a monumental work that contains a vast amount of information. 

I'm wondering what this work gives me that isn't already in these other monumental works which I already own:

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 2:59 PM

Probably best to just compare several articles... http://www.biblicalcyclopedia.com

The three will all find there strengths and weaknesses. I found it very helpful when i consulted it on CDROM years ago...

-Dan

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 3:23 PM

To be honest scrolling throw trying to find smaller articles to compare shows me that there is not a whole lot of over lap.

-Dan

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 3:47 PM

It is online here:  http://www.biblicalcyclopedia.com/A/index.html 

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Yasmin Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 5:17 PM

Dan Francis:

Yasmin if I didn't have it coming as part of my Anglican library 7 I would bid on it in a second. This is truly a monumental work that contains a vast amount of information. 

Dan

I had bid but I dropped out. More desirable stuff shipping soon that this one seems like an indulgence. Plus Logos Now annual membership fee is due around the corner. Priorities, priorities! Smile

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 15 2016 7:26 PM

Dan Francis:

To be honest scrolling throw trying to find smaller articles to compare shows me that there is not a whole lot of over lap.

-Dan

Okay, well major portion of the articles in the Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature (aka McClintock-Strong) seem to be biographies, so it really doesn't compare to the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics which seems mainly topical.

When comparing similar articles in McClintock-Strong to Schaff-Herzog, the Schaff-Herzog articles are generally to be longer. But McClintock-Strong does have a lot of entries that Schaff-Herzog does not.  However so many of those entries are short biographies for minor churchmen who published something (hence the "Literature" from the title).  Not sure if that's really up my alley.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 16 2016 2:23 PM

I found McClintock-Strong had more obscure things too... but it may not be for everyone, but I am looking forward to it.... In choice between it and Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics I would lean more to the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics. But still think they compliment one another well.

-Dan

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Jerome Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 11:11 AM

Each of the several encyclopedias have unique material of interest to students of the Bible.  I found helpful material that directly relates to the Bible itself of interest to me as I prepared expanded cross references for my first Bible reference work, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.   I found helpful material distinguishing different words for "well" and "river" and similar features of the Holy Land, as I recall now. 

There is an excellent article about the many "false Christs" that arose in the years after Jesus ascended to heaven in McClintock and Strong.

The bibliographies on many subjects have helped me track down either authors or more books on a subject of special interest.  Many of these older works are still of interest, and I have often found access to these works at Google Books.

I have used each of the several encyclopedias at length over many years.  McClintock and Strong is my favorite, because I find it has good material directly Bible related even more than the others.

I believe you will not be disappointed with this resource.

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