ESV Maps -- missing?

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:07 PM

Why don't we get the maps that the ESV lists as a feature of the digital edition? Seems like we're not getting everything in the edition.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:12 PM

That would be sweet especially if they track with you while you are reading.

I think its a different ESV package that offers them though.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:17 PM

JoshInRI:
That would be sweet especially if they track with you while you are reading.

I think you may have misplaced expectations as to what the images in a text resource might be able to do.

JoshInRI:
I think its a different ESV package that offers them though.

I suppose it's possible that the edition in Logos is not the Digital Edition?  Seems counter-intuitive.  Especially since it talks about the maps right there in this edition.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:46 PM

Maybe my memory is failing, but I remembered ESV as having a nice set of maps. Though I like NET's better.

I checked Libby, and she sadly shook her head ... no maps. File date 2011. Back in those day, Libronix Research Systems put a huge TOC in the book info panel, and indeed there's a link to maps ... the paragraph describing the valuable maps.

Maybe they're in the study Bible?

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:48 PM

Try this personal book that I made.  

1565.ESV Bible Maps in Biblical Order.docx

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:49 PM

Eventually I will get to applying links to the Bible but for now this is what I have.  

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:50 PM

Todd Phillips:
Seems like we're not getting everything in the edition.

You have a point. Clearly listed in the TOC. The Study Bible has them listed and they are present in that resource. It seems to me that they should be present in the Digital Bible as well. Someone from FL should comment.

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 3:52 PM

Denise:
Maybe they're in the study Bible?
 Yes they are and the links are in the personal book I created. 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 4:27 PM

John Brumett:

Try this personal book that I made.  

1565.ESV Bible Maps in Biblical Order.docx

If those are ESV Study Bible maps linked, then it won't work for me as I don't own the ESV Study Bible.

In this thread, I am curious if something has been over looked in the production of the base ESV resource. These would be different maps than the ones in the Study Bible, and should be at the end of the ESV text.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 5:05 PM

The ESV Study Bible has excellent maps.  I bought it in Logos and I have the huge desk copy of it as well.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 5:08 PM

John you are wonderful....I used your maps in Isaiah just now...so cool.

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Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 5:16 PM

Beloved:

Todd Phillips:
Seems like we're not getting everything in the edition.

You have a point. Clearly listed in the TOC. The Study Bible has them listed and they are present in that resource. It seems to me that they should be present in the Digital Bible as well. Someone from FL should comment.

I agree with Todd and Beloved.  If a text is reproduced into the Logos format and is claimed to be that text, then the whole book should be provided. It is not good enough to leave anything out unless this is advised to buyers at the time of sale. In my view it would be an insufficient answer to point to a different book (eg., ESV Study Bible) which may have what is missing. It would also be insufficient to answer that this is not the "Digital Edition" containing the maps when the text within the book indicates otherwise. 

I'm sure that Faithlife would want to address the matter of this omission. Keep well Paul    

     

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David Bailey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 5:37 PM

A tradition at Faithlife?

Pictures and maps are not included in some resources for whatever reasons (reduce costs, that's what they got from the publisher, etc.).  I think its Marketing department should point that out.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 6:35 PM

David Bailey:
Pictures and maps are not included in some resources for whatever reasons

Most frequently the publisher does not own the copyrights on these materials ... each owner must be tracked down and contracts drawn up.

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Ted Harms | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 18 2016 7:33 AM

Thanks so much John for the great job on this book. Works really great!

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 19 2016 11:02 AM

The article referencing maps should have been removed years ago. They're something we didn't have the rights to include.

Future updates will have the mention of maps omitted. I've requested marketing to update the product page.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 19 2016 8:03 PM

Hi Kyle,

The reference to the maps is in the resource itself, not on the product page. (Well, maybe on the product page as well; I've not checked that...)

Jan

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