New Feature: Fuzzy Bible Search

What is it?

Fuzzy Bible Search is a new feature in the Logos Cloud Feature Set that helps you find that verse you can't quite recall-- or maybe you learned it in another translation, and your current Bible version uses another word. Type in the phrase as best as you remember, and Fuzzy Search will return a list of verses ranked by best match.

Logos Now membership or Logos Cloud (levels Plus and higher) subscription is required.

How does it work?

Open Basic Search set to search Everything, and enter your query.
Fuzzy Search sends your search to an online database. (Internet connection is required.)
The search is run against multiple English translations, and best matches are returned to your search panel.
Results are displayed in your preferred version of the Bible, with the most likely match at the top.

Learn More

Video: https://www.logos.com/logos-pro/fuzzy-bible-search

Help article (Opens in Logos): https://ref.ly/logosres/logos4help;hw=Morph_Query_Document

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Todd Phillips

Logos Now membership or Logos Cloud subscription is required.

I assume this means it isn't a local search and also requires an internet connection to Faithlife servers to work?

Was there a reason this couldn't be implemented as a local index search?

DMB

Oh, for goodness sakes, Todd.

When I saw the Graham beta query (Graham's pretty logical), I thought to myself 'Oh my. I hope this is for Now'ers only. And internet only for when L8 appears.'

Then I saw Adam's thread. Whew!!!! Dodged that bullet! Cludges up the search panel and fake FL.

I tried out the old fuzzy on Libby ... that I think I paid for. It's a misnomer, but I'm happy Logos is keeping it on their server. I'm happy for the loss.

MJ really wanted FL ... I wonder if she likes this.

EDIT:

I assume they ported the Libby code, though a Basic search for Bible only will keep some MVPs busy unconfusing the users.

PetahChristian

Was there a reason this couldn't be implemented as a local index search?

I imagine it uses a very specific database designed for this feature, which would consume a lot of space on our local file system.

When we consider that a Concordance can be up to 0.5 Gb for a single bible version, and that fuzzy logic has to search for words that could occur in any bible translation, the question isn't whether it can be implemented locally, but whether it can efficiently be run locally without consuming lots more disk space.

Justin Gatlin

I choose to believe that it just runs a Google search and pulls the Scripture references on the first page.

Jack Hairston

Adam, the more I try to duplicate your example, the more I do not see "FUZZY BIBLE SEARCH." Can you tell me what I'm doint wrong?

Jack [Platinum V5 (IH) Logos Now]

Todd Phillips

I choose to believe that it just runs a Google search and pulls the Scripture references on the first page.

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Adam Borries (Logos)

I do not see "FUZZY BIBLE SEARCH."

This is currently available on the beta update channel. Sorry, Jack and everyone, I should have posted in the beta forum. I'll move it now.

Don Awalt

Tried a few purposely mangled searches so far - this is very sweet! Thank you Faithlife!

Donnie Hale

I choose to believe that it just runs a Google search and pulls the Scripture references on the first page.

Brilliant. And, sadly, would probably give the best results.

-Donnie

Owen Frethey

I have the Beta and Logos Cloud but can see no "Fuzzy Search".

Do I need to install it or ...?

Adam Borries (Logos)

I have the Beta and Logos Cloud but can see no "Fuzzy Search".

Apologies, Owen,

Fuzzy Search is available in Logos Cloud levels Plus and higher. Updated the original post with correction.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

I have the Beta and Logos Cloud but can see no "Fuzzy Search".

Do I need to install it or ...?

Logos 7.2 Beta 3 added "Fuzzy Bible Search" to Everything (Basic) Search.

Keep Smiling [:)]

John Goodman

Fantastic!

John Goodman

Is there any chance this will come to the web app?

GaoLu

This looks great! I would LOVE to have it!

Fuzzy Search sends your search to an online database. (Internet connection is required.)

Is this temporary or permanent?

If temporary, Hallelujah!

If permanent, maybe I will use it someday, a little. Probably I will shrug and just go back to Google. Online use of Logos features is unreliable where I live, which might not be true for other people.

If Permanent, is it worth starting over with a new User Voice to get local Fuzzy Logic Searching? Or would that take many years, or just never happen?

Also....

Will it only be available by doing an Everything Search? [Crickets...]

Andrew Batishko

Fuzzy Search sends your search to an online database. (Internet connection is required.)

Is this temporary or permanent?

This is permanent for the forseeable future. Apply standard qualifiers about our flawed ability to predict the future.

Will it only be available by doing an Everything Search? [Crickets...]

There are plans to integrate this into other parts of the application, but I don't have any details as to when or if this when be completed.

MJ. Smith

MJ really wanted FL ... I wonder if she likes this.

I wanted it for two reasons:

The number of complaints that it wasn't present - check this one off
To search the church fathers who are frequently loosely quoted - still waiting

I assume they ported the Libby code,

No, the algorithm is quite different. I've been unsuccessful in my bid for a comparison of the results.

Todd Phillips

To search the church fathers who are frequently loosely quoted - still waiting

A global fuzzy search would excellent for this type of situation. There are many like it. Searching for quotes in translated works is difficult because of the many translations (not just loose quoting). Also searching for misquoted phrases would benefit from fuzzy search to help find the accurate quote.

Jan Krohn

Logos Now membership or Logos Cloud (levels Plus and higher) subscription is required.

Hm, is there a reason why it's not being made available to users who purchased a Logos 3 (Libronix) base package in the past, and therefore already own and paid for this feature for a previous software version...?

Andrew Batishko

Logos Now membership or Logos Cloud (levels Plus and higher) subscription is required.

Hm, is there a reason why it's not being made available to users who purchased a Logos 3 (Libronix) base package in the past, and therefore already own and paid for this feature for a previous software version...?

Despite the same name, this new feature operates in a fundamentally differently fashion than the L3 fuzzy search, and is a completely different feature. The old feature searched any single resource in a fuzzy fashion. This new feature instead looks for exact (nearly exact) matches across all Bibles (and some datasets) and uses statistical mechanisms to rank the to find the closest matching Bible verses. For this reason, the new feature works only in Bibles and not in any other kinds of resources.

Jan Krohn

Thanks Andrew for the explanation.