Bug: Inconsistent formatting/appearance for Beginning Biblical Hebrew (BBH) Courses tool resource

When viewed in the Courses tool pane (for HB101 segment 2, Suggested Reading, Final Letters), there is no visible table or columns for the two forms:

When that reading is opened in its own tab, the table is visible, but the Hebrew letter מ Basic form is not visible:

When the same content is viewed independently of the reading, the מ is visible again.

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2009-10-27T03:15:50Z
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This occurs with 7.3.0.0031 on macOS 10.12.2

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PetahChristian

Here's a worse example of the same textbook's table formatting issues when appearing within the Courses tool pane:

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/872543#Comment_872543

When FL is back in the office, would someone please determine if this a Courses tool (program) bug, and/or an issue with that specific resource.

Since this resource makes extensive use of that style of table throughout the book, the incorrect formatting and/or missing text content will likely be a recurring problem in upcoming course segments.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/874085#Comment_874085

Bumping this, as I would appreciate hearing whether this is an L7 Courses tool bug, and, if so, whether a case will be opened for it. Hoping this can be fixed for 7.4.

I also noticed today that the Courses tool does initially show the (Vowel Names, Signs, Sounds, and Positions) table with proper formatting for a split second, before redrawing the content without any table formatting.

Not sure why the Courses tool is redrawing the content, or why it initially renders the content correctly, then renders it incorrectly.

Again, this is Logos 7.3 SR-1 (7.3.0.0041) on macOS 10.12.2 (16C67).

Thanks for any help reproducing/fixing this bug!

Philana R. Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/874539#Comment_874539

Bumping this, as I would appreciate hearing whether this is an L7 Courses tool bug, and, if so, whether a case will be opened for it. Hoping this can be fixed for 7.4.

I also noticed today that the Courses tool does initially show the (Vowel Names, Signs, Sounds, and Positions) table with proper formatting for a split second, before redrawing the content without any table formatting.

Not sure why the Courses tool is redrawing the content, or why it initially renders the content correctly, then renders it incorrectly.

Again, this is Logos 7.3 SR-1 (7.3.0.0041) on macOS 10.12.2 (16C67).

Thanks for any help reproducing/fixing this bug!

Hi PetahChristian,

I've reproduced this and will let the team know.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/874605#Comment_874605

Thanks very much, Philana! It is good simply to get feedback that a case is/will be opened, and it will get fixed in a future release.

Thanks again!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/874617#Comment_874617

Merely noting that this issue is still present in 7.4.0.0032 on macOS 10.12.3 (16D32).

Thanks to the developers for many improvements and bug fixes in 7.4!

Philana R. Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/880622#Comment_880622

Merely noting that this issue is still present in 7.4.0.0032 on macOS 10.12.3 (16D32).

Thanks to the developers for many improvements and bug fixes in 7.4!

PetahChristian,

We still have an open case for this issue. I don't have any updates on when this will be fixed.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/880623#Comment_880623

We still have an open case for this issue. I don't have any updates on when this will be fixed.

Hi Philana,

Any possibility of this getting fixed for 7.5 or 7.6? This layout issue affects the whole HB101 course, as Dr. Futato's textbook is used throughout every unit.

Thanks!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/880623#Comment_880623

I don't have any updates on when this will be fixed.

Perhaps 7.6? This issue has been around since 7.3 (when HB101 shipped in December). Hoping this and other Course tool issues can be fixed in one fell swoop!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893626#Comment_893626

This issue is still present in 7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018).

Any idea when some of these Courses tool issues will get fixed?

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/911300#Comment_911300

Here's another case where the formatting/appearance looks different inside/outside the Courses tool.

Within the Courses tool, the last row of the table is affected. Neither column aligns with the earlier rows, and עִיר is truncated.

In a separate tab, the marked reading also has issues. Again, part of עִיר is missing, and it also appears below the "Done" visual filter.

This is a common issue where the trailing part of a sentence -- either Hebrew or English -- often is cut off by the visual filter. The effect in the Courses tool is that the content ends abruptly. I.e. עִי instead of עִיר.

When the visual filter is not enabled (or the reading is marked as done), the table appears correctly in the resource.

Hoping this issue can be fixed, as the content should appear the same, whether it's read in the Courses tool or in a separate tab. Thanks!

7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018) on macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)

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PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/911526#Comment_911526

Another case where a (second) table isn't displayed properly within the Courses tool:

Logos Bible Software 7.8 SR-1 (7.8.0.0037) on macOS 10.12.6 (16G29)

Alan Palmer (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/915907#Comment_915907

We are currently working on bringing this old resource up to our current standards. Once we do so, I think you'll find the experience to be far better.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/916000#Comment_916000

Thank you, Alan! I look forward to it!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/916000#Comment_916000

We are currently working on bringing this old resource up to our current standards. Once we do so, I think you'll find the experience to be far better.

I noticed that BBH was recently updated -- thank you! -- but this formatting issue is still unresolved. It appears to be related to misplaced Stop Reading markers in the HB101 course readings, rather than the BBH resource itself.

There is a primary and secondary issue at work here:

Courses tool readings shouldn't end mid-table or mid-sentence (or it will affect formatting, or truncate the last few Hebrew characters of a word).
The Courses tool should gracefully handle cases where closing markup is missing (due to misplaced Stop Reading markers) and automatically close tables to ensure that they are formatted properly within the Courses tool.

Thank you for any attention this issue will receive!

7.13 (7.13.0.0017) on macOS 10.13.3 (17D102)

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