New Feature: User Media Upload (Logos 7.5)

Adam Borries (Logos)

What is it?

Add your own images to The Media Tool in Logos 7.5, to use whatever background you like in quotes.

This feature requires Logos Now membership or Logos Cloud subscription.

How does it work?

To upload images:

Open Tools>Media.
Click the "Upload Media" button.
Select your image(s) from the file browser.
Your image will be stored privately online as "user media."
You may add tags to each image to more easily locate it later.

Supported formats: jpg, jpeg, png, bmp, gif, tiff

File size limit: 10 MB after conversion to .png. (Uploaded files are automatically converted to .png for online storage. If your image is in another format, in some cases the original file will need to be somewhat less than 10 MB.)

To find your images later:

In the Media Tool, change the File Vault selector menu from "Logos Media" to "User Media."

Known issues

Transparent backgrounds are rendered as black when text is added.

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Comments

John Fugh, Jr.

When I try to upload, I receive the following error:

Philip Bassham

I successfully uploaded one picture before starting to get this same error.

Richard Wardman

I successfully uploaded one picture before starting to get this same error.

Same here. Two successful uploads yesterday, and then this error message today.

Adam Borries (Logos)

Sorry about this, folks. The error is related to a licensing issue; it's supposed be available to Logos Now / Logos Cloud subscribers, but there are some back-end connections we need to make.

We'll have it fixed later this morning.

Marc Brule

Will this become available to Logos 7 users at some point or will it be restricted to Logos Now users until version 8 comes out? I have been waiting for this since purchasing Logos 7.

Adam Borries (Logos)

Will this become available to Logos 7 users at some point or will it be restricted to Logos Now users until version 8 comes out? I have been waiting for this since purchasing Logos 7.

Hi, Marc, thanks for your question.

Plans often change, so we avoid stating definitively what "will happen" in the future. For example, the Bible Browser tool started as a Now/Cloud-exclusive feature, but it is now also available in the Extended Feature Set.

For now, user media upload is limited to Now members or subscribers to Logos Cloud Essentials (or higher).

Andrew

Can uploaded images be tagged?

Mike Binks

Can uploaded images be tagged?

Does item 5 in the original post answer your question or are you looking for something different?

Jackie Watts

Can uploaded images be used with passage references & translation? I don't see that option. In other words, it will include the passage, but not the reference nor the translation used.

Thayne

This is a great addition! I was thinking that this would be really helpful! Thanks!

Joe Dillabaugh

This is awesome! I'm having some problems with it maybe you could help me clear them up

I uploaded the sermon series slides into the media via the instructions you gave. I found the slide in the toggle for "user media"

When I update the sermon with the slide and hit "apply this style to all slides" it resets all slides to plain black.

When I update a single slide it resets the text to be black in color and super small (unreadable if I were to use it on Sunday morning).

I can give some screenshots if needed, I'd really like to help fixing it as this is an awesome upgrade.

-Joe

JT (alabama24)

This is awesome! I'm having some problems with it

For the best help, please create a new thread and explain your issue clearly.

Graham Criddle

When I update the sermon with the slide and hit "apply this style to all slides" it resets all slides to plain black.

When I update a single slide it resets the text to be black in color and super small (unreadable if I were to use it on Sunday morning).

I can give some screenshots if needed, I'd really like to help fixing it as this is an awesome upgrade.

Joe

As Alabama suggests let's continue this in the thread you started earlier at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/141854.aspx

I think I'm seeing a similar problem but it would be good to tie it down more closely there

Shaun Hart

I just want to make sure I understand, I need to pay for a service to use my own images in sermon prep?

Phil Gons (Logos)

I just want to make sure I understand, I need to pay for a service to use my own images in sermon prep?

Shaun, for now this is a subscription feature. We may open it up to non-subscribers later (e.g., with the launch of Logos 8), but we've not decided for sure yet. We have bandwidth and storage costs for this feature, and we've not yet built support for having storage limits. When we do, we'll likely have a free storage level that wouldn't require an ongoing subscription. I'm sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time.

Andrew Ingersoll

Just got the Logos software today; planning on using the sermon editor for preaching and power point in a couple days. I'm excited about the sermon editor feature but was struggling with getting my own images into it. So I came here and find out that to get my images into my sermon is a privilege exclusive for those who pay for a subscription... after having just purchased $600 of software.

Here's an idea: don't force people to store every piece of media on your servers. It's rather obnoxious to assume I want everything I do to be public. If you want, make the ability to store it in the cloud a paid subscription feature, but by default only save it locally. After all, if I want to use the cloud it makes sense to pay for the storage costs, and if I need to have access to it in multiple locations, I would be more willing to pay for it. But right now, I don't believe the whole world needs my image for my opening icebreaker. Let me store the thing locally to use in the software I already own.

Mike Binks

Greetings Andrew

Congratulations on becoming a Logos user - if you are anything like me you will find it invaluable.

There are a couple of things that you should know...

Folk with a reddish star under their icon are volunteers who lurk about the forums helping where they can.

Folk with green stars have to work for their living 😊 they are the Faithlife staff.

after having just purchased $600 of software

Actually the 'Software' is free. There is actually a Basic package that has exactly the same engine and a few resources (books) and is provided free as starter unit. What you have really purchased is resources (books) and they are yours forever.

Some of the functions of Logos are reserved for those who subscribe to some extra services (mostly not books). Some of these things involve server side manipulation. Some are just kept separate to add value to the subscription package. At the moment using local media is one of those things. It may not always stay that way but that is the way it is at the moment.

Of course one of the pleasures of doing business with Faithlife is that they do their best to look after their customers and should you change your mind about any purchase they do offer a very good refund policy. You could return your books but you can't return the software because that came as free but essential add on.

Adam Borries (Logos)

Just got the Logos software today; planning on using the sermon editor for preaching and power point in a couple days. I'm excited about the sermon editor feature but was struggling with getting my own images into it. So I came here and find out that to get my images into my sermon is a privilege exclusive for those who pay for a subscription... after having just purchased $600 of software.

Here's an idea: don't force people to store every piece of media on your servers. It's rather obnoxious to assume I want everything I do to be public. If you want, make the ability to store it in the cloud a paid subscription feature, but by default only save it locally. After all, if I want to use the cloud it makes sense to pay for the storage costs, and if I need to have access to it in multiple locations, I would be more willing to pay for it. But right now, I don't believe the whole world needs my image for my opening icebreaker. Let me store the thing locally to use in the software I already own.

Andrew,

First, thank you for your purchase, and welcome to Logos. I am sorry that your very first experience has left such a poor impression; I know how frustrating it can be to invest so much in something, and find that it does do what you expected it would. Let me try to explain the reasons behind it.

Sermon Editor was designed around the idea that we could help streamline the whole sermon-writing process-- perhaps most notably by automatically creating beautifully-designed slides. (This is something we started doing a few years ago for song slides in Proclaim, and we thought it made sense to carry over to sermons in Logos.) The way we handle that process is by generating the slide on our servers, and then sending the final image to Logos on your computer. So even before we added the ability (somewhat later) for Logos Now members to add their own images, online storage was a necessity, and is still an integral part of the system.

So, while local-only storage for images is a good idea, it's not the main problem we were trying to solve at the time. That's not to say this couldn't change in the future: it's possible for us to add a local-only option, or (as Phil mentioned above) give each user a limited amount of free storage space. These are all options we are actively exploring. In the meantime, feel free to reach out to me personally if you'd like to continue this conversation, at aborries[at]logos.com.

I hope and trust that Logos will become a valued tool in your sermon prep, as it is for thousands of other pastors.

Michael McLane

Are the images that I might upload made public or kept private?

Richard Bonjour

Adam, was wondering if there has been any thoughts about linking group uploads from proclaim to the sermon editor. We have over 1000 pictures uploaded and most of them tagged. It seems redundant for me to have up load all those pictures again and tag them when they are already in the system through proclaim. I have access to proclaim media pro images. It sure would be great if we could just finish the job and put the group uploads as well.[:)]

Adam Borries (Logos)

Are the images that I might upload made public or kept private?

Michael, uploaded User Media is private. The only way to access it at this time is through the Media Tool in your own Logos Bible Software. (We have plans for a web interface in the future, where you will probably have more flexibility in privacy controls.)

Adam, was wondering if there has been any thoughts about linking group uploads from proclaim to the sermon editor. We have over 1000 pictures uploaded and most of them tagged. It seems redundant for me to have up load all those pictures again and tag them when they are already in the system through proclaim. I have access to proclaim media pro images. It sure would be great if we could just finish the job and put the group uploads as well.

This is an excellent point, Richard. The whole idea is to have an integrated workflow, so it makes sense to provide access to *all* your images. I'll discuss it with the team.

Michael E Michalk

Previously I "tagged" images that I uploaded, but today it's not working. When I type in a tag and then hit "enter," the page goes blank.

diederick pütter

I have also noticed a problem with the media tagging. It interprets the image and provide suggestive tags, but it ignores all you personal tags and does not delete the suggestive tags that you do not want. None of your personal tags get saved.