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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 14 2017 6:18 AM

Hello all!

My goal is to search for a Hebrew word, in this instance חסד, and to analyze where these OT passages are cited in the NT. I would like to see how the NT translates this word (usually "eleos" from what I have seen).

I have searched through Carson's "Commentary on the NT Use of the OT," and I have a general idea, but I want to make sure that I don't miss anything.

Is there anyway to do this kind of search in Logos? 

Thanks!
Greg

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:20 AM

Hi Gregory,

Here is one way you can do it: 

Do a Bible search in OT only for: <Lemma = lbs/he/חֶ֫סֶד:2> AND {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ "New Testament" AND Relationship ~ "Citation"}

I find only one passage Jer 9:24 and the part of the verse that is cited in 1 Corinthians 1:31 was not that which includes the lemma in the OT passage (in other words, it offers no translational evidence for your term).

If in the search above, you substitute "Allusion" for "Citation" you will find many more hits.

<Lemma = lbs/he/חֶ֫סֶד:2> AND {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ "New Testament" AND Relationship ~ "Allusion"}

Allusions are not exact citations but may still reproduce the part of the verses that include your verse.

There may be a better or easier way of doing this, but that's what comes to mind.

BTW, if you want to find out where in the NT a particular OT text is cited or alluded to, open the Information pane and click in your verse. Look under "Other References" for a label that says "Intertext". It will tell you what the target is (e.g., Hebrews 4.4 for Genesis 2.2) and whether it is a citation or allusion. You can hover on the target reference to quickly see whether it includes the part of the verse that originally contained your lemma.

In case you have not done this yet and it would be useful to you, you can (1) consult the TDNT for this (go to eleos, find your hebrew lemma, then search it through TDNT) and (2) set the translation wheel to LXX in a Bible Word Study on your Hebrew lemma to see how it was rendered in the Greek translations of the OT.

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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:39 AM

Thank you for the quick response!

Interestingly, when I search for the strings that you posted, I get 0 results. I copied and pasted it into the search bar, so I don't know why it is not working correctly. I am using Logos 7, by the way. 

One example that I am looking at is Acts 13:34, where Paul seems to quote Isaiah 55:3 and equates the "holy and sure blessings of David" with חסד and ties חסד to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 

Thanks!

Greg

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:41 AM

Which Bible are you searching? Try searching all Bibles. If it does not work, post a screenshot of your search window please.

The other question is whether you have the dataset required for this search. See here:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/120643/789279.aspx

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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:46 AM

Hope this shows up well!

Greg

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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:47 AM

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:52 AM

Do you know if you have the use of OT in NT dataset? One of the way to find out is to look in the information pane for your passage in Acts you mentioned above and see whether it mentions Intertext under the other references section.

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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 7:54 AM

It does not seem that I have that, which could be the problem!

Okay, so without that dataset, it seems that I need to use one of the other methods you mentioned. Is that correct?

Greg

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 8:12 AM

Here's the list of hits for allusions, beside the one citation mentioned earlier:

Genesis 19:19; 39:21; Exodus 20:6; Deuteronomy 5:10; 7:9; Joshua 2:12; 2 Samuel 7:15; 1 Chronicles 17:13; 2 Chronicles 5:13; Psalm 42:8; 51:1; 62:12; 98:3; 106:45; Proverbs 3:3; Isaiah 40:6; Jeremiah 9:24; Hosea 10:12; Micah 7:20.

Use the cross-references section of Passage Guide or NTSK or cross-references in NASB to find the corresponding NT passages. If you have the New Testament Use of the Old Testament interactive, that would be even faster.

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Gregory Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 8:30 AM

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback and the help you have provided.

Greg

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