Revelation: Four Views, A Parallel Commentary by Steve Gregg - text missing

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Chris Kendrick | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Mar 21 2010 12:53 PM

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 2:27 PM

Chris Kendrick:

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

It appears to be in mine though I'm not sure what page it's on since this is one of those resources where the page numbers don't appear.

In like manner Israel is referred to frequently in the Bible as "the virgin daughter of Zion" (Lam. 2:13), and as the "virgin of Israel" (Jer. 18:13; 31:4, 21; Amos 5:2). In the New Testament also, the term "virgin" is used both of men and of women as in 2 Corinthians 11:2 in reference to the church as a bride.

Ryrie explains that the word firstfruits (v. 4) means that

they are a token offering to God, which indicates that a larger harvest would follow. The first converts of a country are called firstfruits of the larger number to be won (Rom. 16:5; 1 Cor. 16:15)… Apparently they indicate the harvest of many other Israelites (remember that they are Jews, not Gentiles) who will turn to the Lord at the end of the tribulation and during the millennium (Isa. 2:3; Zech. 8:22).

There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 3:14 PM

Chris Kendrick:

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

It's not in mine, either.  I just submitted a typo report on it.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 5:35 PM

Todd Phillips:

Chris Kendrick:

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

It's not in mine, either.  I just submitted a typo report on it.

I found it in mine by running a "find" on the phrase "There is no guile."  Did you try that?

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 5:40 PM

George Somsel:

Todd Phillips:

Chris Kendrick:

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

It's not in mine, either.  I just submitted a typo report on it.

I found it in mine by running a "find" on the phrase "There is no guile."  Did you try that?

I had found the location.  The missing text is the Ironside quote that should occur after the colon at the end of "a quality that Ironside describes:"  Instead, the next section just begins.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 7:12 PM

Todd Phillips:

George Somsel:

Todd Phillips:

Chris Kendrick:

In Revelation: Four Views, under section 14:1-5 under the Futurist view, there is a paragraph missing (pp. 318-19 in the print edition) at the end.

It reads: "There is no guile (v. 5, KJV), or as some manuscripts read, no lie in their mouths, a quality that Ironside describes:

Ironside's description is missing.

It's not in mine, either.  I just submitted a typo report on it.

I found it in mine by running a "find" on the phrase "There is no guile."  Did you try that?

I had found the location.  The missing text is the Ironside quote that should occur after the colon at the end of "a quality that Ironside describes:"  Instead, the next section just begins.

I see what you mean now.  I originally thought it was the section quoted in the post which I assumed was quoted from a print edition.  I was also thinking that Ironside's quote was in the following section considering the manner in which the views are laid out.  Mine is missing as well.

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gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Chris Kendrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 7:32 PM

The missing text reads (Gregg, 319):

"A guileless man is not a sinless man; he is one who has nothing to hide. When sin is all confessed and judged in the presence of God, guile is absent. And so this guileless company are described as without fault before the throne of God."

I have the print ed. so that's how I knew the quote was missing. Thanks for the feedback guys!

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 7:40 PM

Chris Kendrick:
"A guileless man is not a sinless man; he is one who has nothing to hide. When sin is all confessed and judged in the presence of God, guile is absent. And so this guileless company are described as without fault before the throne of God."

AH! It's not missing then, just misplaced: it's at the end of the next section ("Spiritual")--I searched for that quote.  Weird

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 21 2010 7:48 PM

Todd Phillips:

Chris Kendrick:
"A guileless man is not a sinless man; he is one who has nothing to hide. When sin is all confessed and judged in the presence of God, guile is absent. And so this guileless company are described as without fault before the throne of God."

AH! It's not missing then, just misplaced: it's at the end of the next section ("Spiritual")--I searched for that quote.  Weird

Not only is it misplaced, it isn't formatted as a quote.

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Chris Kendrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 22 2010 7:26 AM

I see it, thanks. That is a really random place! I must have just read right over it.

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