How do I enter Greek text and search for the string of Greek characters?

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David Parker | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 23 2010 1:14 PM

Hey, I would like to search for the Greek string ὑπὸ νόμον (under law) in all Greek resources. How do I do it? I can work on the collections aspect of it, but I've not gone to Camp Logos 2 yet to know how to work with the original language.

On a Mac, you can enter the breathings/accents. Should I? And, where?

I looked on the forum posts and found that one can type g:word, but it seems to work for one word. i'd prefer to enter the true Greek.

I can also go into the Windows version if something isn't ready in the UI.

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 23 2010 1:19 PM

Try Greek in "quotes". It should work because it works in English. Since it will find g:word, I don't think that accents matter at this stage.

I haven't used it because I'm still using L3 for serious language work until morphological searches are enabled. Then you will be able to search with lemmas which is far better.

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You can type in the Greek script OR you can use the untransliteration tools and type g:upo and or g:nomon into the search bar and it will offer suggested forms.

We try not to be too legalistic about your options.

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Doug Dunbar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 23 2010 9:24 PM

Cameron Watters:

We try not to be too legalistic about your options.

That's sneakily funny in the context here. Nice one Cameron.

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David Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 24 2010 9:47 AM

Yes, that was a good reply.

And, exactly what I'm trying to check up on. I was reading a commentary by David Stern and I was interested in checking out his position.

If I only find it being used by Sha'ul, then his assessment is probably correct about legalism and the Law, not the Law itself, given Matthew 5:17.

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 24 2010 5:35 PM

Cameron Watters:
You can type in the Greek script OR you can use the untransliteration tools and type g:upo and or g:nomon into the search bar and it will offer suggested forms.

Two questions:

1. How do you type Greek script? I don't find a Greek keyboard in L4 as in L3.

2. How does David get the "ὑπὸ νόμον" search he asked for? I tried g:"upo nomon" (searching NA27) and got no hits, though I can find at least two verses that have that phrase (by searching and English Bible and then looking at the Greek text).

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 2:41 AM

Jim McDaniel:

1. How do you type Greek script? I don't find a Greek keyboard in L4 as in L3.

2. How does David get the "ὑπὸ νόμον" search he asked for? I tried g:"upo nomon" (searching NA27) and got no hits, though I can find at least two verses that have that phrase (by searching and English Bible and then looking at the Greek text).

1. If you are using a PC then download the Greek Polytonic System from Microsoft's website and follow the installation instructions. If you are using Mac then Instructions and a printable summary layout are at  www.TyndaleHouse.co.uk/Fonts/Unicode.htm. Alternatively the Tyndale House site does have a setup for PC as well. All of these are free for personal use.

2. Using the Tyndale keyboard set up on my Mac I switched to Greek Keyboard and typed ὑπο νόμον and ran the search. You can see the results on the screenshot.

Hope that helps.

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David Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 9:58 AM

Jim, for entering greek characters on the Mac, go to the Edit menu in Logos (though this is system wide) and choose Special Characters. You will see all the scripts there. Go to European Scripts, choose Greek, and then you will the Greek Character set.

You place your cursor in the text box where you want the text to go, and then in the character palette, just double-click the characters you want. They will be inserted where the input caret is.

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David Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 10:03 AM

Thanks for this as well. Much cleaner than what I'm currently doing.

Will download it.

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Stephen Ashton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 2:21 PM

Here's another way:

Go to System Preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, turn on the Greek keyboard (circled in the screenshot below) and makes sure that you've selected the 'Show Input menu in menu bar' button (see arrow, below):

When you've done this you can switch keyboards from the menu bar:

And use the Keyboard viewer while you learn which keys represent which characters:

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David Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 26 2010 11:16 AM

Oh, thanks so much.

i'm hoping to facilitate a Greek class to "whosoever will" when I'm done with my own studies. This makes it so much easier than the method that I was previously doing to enter greek characters. I dreaded having to create material with that method.

Thanks to all the suggestions.

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Daniel Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 7 2018 3:43 PM

Are you showing "System Preferences" inside Logos or a mac?

How do I use Greek text to make searches for Greek in the Greek NT in Logos?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 8 2018 4:06 AM

Daniel Steffen:
Are you showing "System Preferences" inside Logos or a mac?

Welcome Big Smile

Mac has 'System Preferences' for Keyboard whose appearance and choices in macOS 10.12 High Sierra is now a bit different:

This thread started on 23 Mar 2010 after Logos 4 Mac Alpha pre-release 16a. Logos wiki has => https://wiki.logos.com/Mac_Release_Notes_and_History

Fast Forward to Feb 2018 where 7.12 is the current stable release. Logos wiki has => https://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Release_History

Cameron Watters (Faithlife):
You can type in the Greek script OR you can use the untransliteration tools and type g:upo and or g:nomon into the search bar and it will offer suggested forms.

Logos Help includes Untransliteration => https://ref.ly/logosres/logos4help?hw=Untransliteration

Daniel Steffen:
How do I use Greek text to make searches for Greek in the Greek NT in Logos?

Logos Pro Training by Faithlife => https://www.logos.com/logos-pro includes Greek and Hebrew tools.

Internet search:

site:community.logos.com search greek

finds many threads discussing various Greek searches.

Also could write a new post in => Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Greek search question.

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