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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 10 2017 6:06 AM

I'd be interested if ever available to public as well

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 1:40 PM

Mark Smith:

David Thomas:

I may be wrong, but I doubt this will happen with my seminary due to partnership with Lifeway which owns a competing Bible Software/library program.

And that software can hardly be considered academic quality. 

You ought to take the time to ask for a deal with Logos. If they are not offering a good deal with the other software, show them the DTS spreadsheet (remembering that they give students all of the Silver package as well) as an example of the academic offerings Logos has.

Your seminary denomination has authors in Logos. The NAC is published by B&H. It isn't a losing proposition for them.

Unless you ask, and ask again, it will not likely happen. It should.



I was told NO, in no uncertain terms. In fact it was likened to cutting my own wrists. A certain portion of the other softwares proceeds supports SB Students apparently.

Then the baptist scholarship % dropped to 40 from 50.


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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 4:09 PM

abondservant:

Mark Smith:

David Thomas:

I may be wrong, but I doubt this will happen with my seminary due to partnership with Lifeway which owns a competing Bible Software/library program.

And that software can hardly be considered academic quality. 

You ought to take the time to ask for a deal with Logos. If they are not offering a good deal with the other software, show them the DTS spreadsheet (remembering that they give students all of the Silver package as well) as an example of the academic offerings Logos has.

Your seminary denomination has authors in Logos. The NAC is published by B&H. It isn't a losing proposition for them.

Unless you ask, and ask again, it will not likely happen. It should.



I was told NO, in no uncertain terms. In fact it was likened to cutting my own wrists. A certain portion of the other softwares proceeds supports SB Students apparently.

Then the baptist scholarship % dropped to 40 from 50. 

I asked as well and was not given quite as graphic of a response. The Dean of the Doctoral studies dept. did tell me that a couple years ago a pitch was made by Logos employees and the administration of MBTS did not view it as an advantageous partnership for the seminary as a whole. As for our department, by the time a student enrolls in Doc studies most have already invested significantly in their platform of choice so an expectation of students at this level to adapt to Logos would not be received well.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 7:32 PM

Makes a lot of sense at the doctoral level. I'm still finishing an M.Div a bit east of you.

The lecture was a little more in depth. Canabalizing an SBC institution that directly benefits me (etc etc etc) Logos is great, and a fantastic tool. But (he said) I won't recommend anything that will cut the wrists of my students financially.

When it comes right down to it, I much prefer Logos to any of the others. Even with its  missteps, and foibles, and staff shakeups, and the aggravating journal situation, and promises RE personal book syncing. In part because I've invested nearly as much in Logos, as I have in my education. But also in part because I like how it works. It does everything I need it to. I also value Bob. I don't think I'd have the same level of reach into Lifeway that we forum users have into Faithlife. I believe in his mission and model with regards to bible software and supporting the church through software.

Things aren't always right on day 1. But they always make things right also. That makes me feel heard, and like my business, and opinion matter.

I don't think that is as true with any other company right now. So I stay, and happily so.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 14 2017 7:39 PM

abondservant:
When it comes right down to it, I much prefer Logos to any of the others.

I first bought WS when NavPress still owned it (sold it in 1993). I got QV when it was still owned by Parsons Technology, long before Lifeway bought it when it was on life support. Somewhere along the line I got a few resources in Pradis (Zondervan's now defunct program) - a few study guides and the old Expositor's Bible Commentary is the only reason it is still on my computer. I didn't come to Logos until Libronix SeriesX in 2003. The search and export options of Logos far exceeds the others and is more useful to academic research In My Honest Opinion. The ONLY thing I have found in WS that I haven't been able to do with more efficiency in Logos is the LessonMaker program. That is the Only reason WS it is still on my computer.

A professional craftsman needs professional-quality tools and fortunately I have qualified for Logos Academic discounts for most of the last 14 years. I have never regretted my investment in Logos. Ironically, at the SBC church I attend our Senior Pastor is a Logos user and a Logos Library was given by the church as a gift to the last man we ordained.

May your heart continue to be formed as well as your mind by your M.Div studies in preparation for greater service in our Lord's harvest fields!!

Making Disciples!  Logos Ecosystem = Logos8 on Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (Win10), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone, [deprecated] Windows App, Proclaim, Faithlife.com, FaithlifeTV via Connect subscription.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 14 2017 8:34 PM

David Thomas:

May your heart continue to be formed as well as your mind by your M.Div studies in preparation for greater service in our Lord's harvest fields!!



Deeply grateful for the prayers! I'm convinced that one can never be prayed for too much.

My graduate studies are actually winding down. I have about 8-9 classes left, but was called to be a pastor three years ago. Financially I can't afford to take many classes these days, and serving as a pastor pretty well keeps me busy. I managed about a class a semester the last year or so, and it appears I'll be able to take fewer going forward. Its amazing how God opens and closes doors. Five years ago I thought I'd be heading to the missions field. I was with a parachurch. I was dead set against more schooling, staying in this country for ministry in general and the pastorate in particular. But God closed some doors, and opened others. So I ended up in seminary. Still heading towards the missions field. But God closed some doors, and opened others and my home church that I occasionally filled the pulpit for (maybe an additional couple of years) found itself in need of a pastor. They mentioned the need, and I mentioned I'd be open to the possibility. After a time of prayer, my heart softened to the position. An ordination ceremony and vote to call me happened on the same night. The vote to call me was unanimous minus one (my uncle - the only member we've lost actually).

We were never big, and a string of deaths left us smaller than before. But God is sending people to us. we have had I think 10 baptisms since last summer, and three more planned. Pretty excited about that :)

Hoping to draw in some more people from the local bible college. May need to start spending some time down there.

I may work on a D.Min, or PhD when I finish here... Whatever the Lord wants.

I'll be keeping you in prayer as well!


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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 14 2018 5:40 AM

I dont know if this is helpful, but I saved the English package into a docx file to eventually be compiled into an ebook.  I have then started to put the resources into categories but I have not done a good job of it.  It seems that there are a lot of random resources and I have not yet figured out the best way to organize the resources to compile a personal book.  If anyone wants to look at what has been done and improve on it, perhaps eventually we can at least have a personal book of the resources. 

2022.DTS Logos Package.docx.

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 8 2021 7:13 PM

Well, now that has changed since the purchase of Wordsearch, yes?

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 8 2021 10:54 PM

David Thomas:
I may be wrong, but I doubt this will happen with my seminary due to partnership with Lifeway which owns a competing Bible Software/library program.

I'm glad to admit that I was wrong! MBTS did develop a collection with Faithlife and now the entire library of BH titles in Wordsearch are in process.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 9 2021 7:23 PM

David Thomas:

David Thomas:
I may be wrong, but I doubt this will happen with my seminary due to partnership with Lifeway which owns a competing Bible Software/library program.

I'm glad to admit that I was wrong! MBTS did develop a collection with Faithlife and now the entire library of BH titles in Wordsearch are in process.



SEBTS gives students the academic free package I believe.


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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 9 2021 8:48 PM

The choices at the academic level have certainly narrowed of late. Logos and Accordance. Is anything else left?

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 10 2021 5:16 AM

The choices were narrowed by the consolidation of publishing houses....?

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