A A Hodge Outlines: Whats the difference?

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2010 2:22 AM

I already have AA Hodge outlines of theology

LLS:42.110.252002-05-14T00:31:12Z outl.lbxlls

But the one offered in March Madness is

OUTLTHEONEW.lbxlls (2.75Mb)

whats the difference? They both appear to be the 1879 edition.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 2:47 AM

I just bought the latter. Here's the description from its info panel:

The files sizes are significantly different. This snapshot is from the Logos ftp site. I didn't find a file called OUTL.lbxlls like what you have above, only OUTLTHEO.lbxlls, and the new OUTLTHEONEW.

Does yours say on the title page that it is the Rewritten and Enlarged Edition?

Here's the Table of Contents of mine:

Title Page

Preface to First Edition

Preface to Revised and Enlarged Edition

Contents

► Chapter I: Christian Theology; Its Several Branches; And Their Relation to Other Departments of Human Knowledge

► Chapter II: Origin of the Idea of God and Proof of His Existence ״ Chapter III: The Sources of Theology

► Chapter IV: The Inspiration of the Bible

► Chapter V: The Rule of Faith and Practice

► Chapter VI: A Comparison of Systems

► Chapter VII: Creeds and Confessions

► Chapter VIII: The Attributes of God

► Chapter IX: The Holy Trinity

► Chapter X: The Decrees of God in General

► Chapter XI: Predestination

► Chapter XII: The Creation of the World

► Chapter XIII: Angels

► Chapter XIV: Providence

► Chapter XV: The Moral Constitution of the Soul, Will, Liberty, Etc.

► Chapter XVI: Creation and Original State of Man

► Chapter XVII: Covenant of Works

► Chapter XVIII: The Nature of Sin and the Sin of Adam

► Chapter XIX: Original Sin.—(Peccatum Habituale.)

► Chapter XX: Inability

► Chapter XXI: Imputation of Adam's First Sin

► Chapter XXII: The Covenant of Grace

► Chapter XXIII: The Person of Christ

► Chapter XXIV: Mediatorial Office of Christ

► Chapter XXV: The Atonement: Its Nature, Necessity, Perfection, and Extent

► Chapter XXVI: The Intercession of Christ

► Chapter XXVII: Mediatorial Kingship of Christ

► Chapter XXVIII: Effectual Calling

► Chapter XXIX: Regeneration

► Chapter XXX: Faith

► Chapter XXXI: Union of Believers with Christ

► Chapter XXXII: Repentance, and the Romish Doctrine of Penance

► Chapter XXXIII: Justification

► Chapter XXXIV: Adoption, and the Order of Grace in the Application of Redemption, in the Several Parts of Justification, Regeneration, and Sanctification

► Chapter XXXV: Sanctification

► Chapter XXXVI: Perseverance of the Saints

► Chapter XXXVII: Death, and the State of the Soul after Death

► Chapter XXXVIII: The Resurrection

► Chapter XXXIX: The Second Advent and General Judgment

► Chapter XL: Heaven and Hell

► Chapter XLI: Sacraments

► Chapter XLII: Baptism: Its Nature and Design, Mode, Subjects, Efficacy, and Necessity ״ Chapter XLIII: The Lord's Supper

► Appendix: The Consensus Tigurinus and the Formula Consensus Helvetica Index

Another thing that no doubt has changed is that the new one appears to be very well tagged with lots of links to Logos library books: A link to Westminster Larger Catechism Question 18 worked, for example! I doubt the old version was that thoroughly tagged, though that wouldn't account for the new one being more than twice the filesize.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 3:19 AM

Rose

Yes thanks for the info

 

[<b>edited by:</b> Whyndell Grizzard at 3:37 AM (GMT -8) on Tue, Mar 30 2010]
And after the purchase it is a "BIG" improvement, much more readable and the Grk is much better, the layout is an enormous improvement.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 3:40 AM

Whydell,

I'm glad you brought this up...I was planning on purchasing the updated version but I went to my library and it seems i already have both! Embarrassed

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 3:45 AM

Robert Pavich:

Whydell,

I'm glad you brought this up...I was planning on purchasing the updated version but I went to my library and it seems i already have both! Embarrassed

I unfortunately neglected to check whether I had the R.A. Torrey collection already and bought it at a nice 40% discount. Bummer. I'll have to call Customer Service in the morning and see if they'll refund my purchase. And I'm going to go add a few more YesYesYesYes's to that suggestion on the website redesign thread about making it tell you when you already have a resource so you don't accidentally buy it again. Sad

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 8:29 AM

Rosie Perera:
I unfortunately neglected to check whether I had the R.A. Torrey collection already and bought it at a nice 40% discount.

I came very close to making the same mistake. It would be nice if the website could tell you that you have already purchased that resource.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 8:50 AM

Jack Caviness:
It would be nice if the website could tell you that you have already purchased that resource.

Oh, I hope that can be accomplished.  I have wasted sooooo much time trying to figure out whether I have it or not before I can decide to purchase an item.  And even then, I'm not confident, because sometimes not everything comes up unless you put in the exact reference.  A W, Arthur, Arthur Walkington - Pink comes to mind.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 9:06 AM

Sharon:
sometimes not everything comes up unless you put in the exact reference.  A W, Arthur, Arthur Walkington - Pink comes to mind.

Wouldn't author:Pink produce all of them?

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 9:49 AM

Jack Caviness:

Sharon:
sometimes not everything comes up unless you put in the exact reference.  A W, Arthur, Arthur Walkington - Pink comes to mind.

Wouldn't author:Pink produce all of them?

Yes.  Do you think it was because I put in his first name that made the list incomplete?  I did it several ways at the time and was so unsure that I had found everything.  (This was weeks ago.)

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 10:17 AM

Perhaps many are just impulsive buyers.  If you purchase something you already have, most likely you'll never use the resource, since you never cared for it before.  I'm sure Logos doesn't mind though Smile

Jason Saling

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 10:51 AM

The Hodge title Wyndell is refering to is an old E4 product that is no longer sold. The Logos product is much better as he noted.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 4:41 PM

Jason Saling:

Perhaps many are just impulsive buyers.  If you purchase something you already have, most likely you'll never use the resource, since you never cared for it before.  I'm sure Logos doesn't mind though Smile

I am building up my library for the future. I haven't yet had time to read or even become familiar with everything in my library, but I don't know when there might come a time when these sorts of resources aren't available, or aren't available for such good prices, or I will be in a situation where I couldn't afford to buy them. I expect this library I'm building to serve me well through the rest of my life in whatever calling or life circumstances I might find myself in.

Also, as an MVP on the Forum, I feel a certain amount of responsibility to be able to help people when they are experiencing problems that are specific to one or another resource. So if I had a small library I wouldn't be able to be of much help to very many people. That's my excuse, anyway. Wink

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Robert Lombardi | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 5:40 PM

I created a new topic. A.A. Hodge March Madness NOT a Good Deal. The retail price is 2X - $59, should be $29.

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/14640.aspx

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