I'm not on the subscription plan, but just got an email about the Web App being available now. I'm quite impressed with it so far. Thank you so much FL!
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Gives new meaning to the term "watching paint dry". Utterly unusable.
Performance might be OK for you in the US. I'm in Europe on a fairly good 120 Mbps Internet connection, but what I see is a lot of these:
ping time is about 200 ms. For major sites like Apple, Microsoft, Cisco using CDNs I get between 12 -14 ms, so nothing wrong with my Internet connection.
So, basically, useless (for me, anyone outside the US I suspect) at present.
"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein
Patrick S.:So, basically, useless (for me, anyone outside the US I suspect) at present.
It's usable for me - based in the UK. I do see some delay but not really a major problem.
I wonder if there are more regional issues - or something else causing this.
VPN?
macOS, iOS & iPadOS | Logs | Install
I have Comcast Cable. Vastly better than the Earthlink DSL I had. DSL is short for D...SLOW.
Would love to hear from more people around the world what their experience is like (which parts of the app are fast/slow, how long they take, and where the pain points are). We do have monitoring that can help us understand page speed from around the world, but nothing can replace actual user experiences. Thanks!
By the way, we have a forum for the web app, which might be more useful for specific discussion surrounding it.
David Schwegler (Faithlife): Would love to hear from more people around the world what their experience is like (which parts of the app are fast/slow, how long they take, and where the pain points are).
Would love to hear from more people around the world what their experience is like (which parts of the app are fast/slow, how long they take, and where the pain points are).
Doesn't work on Safari 10.0.3 on macOS Sierra, two machines iMac and MacBook Air.
On both machines the search, open Bible, open Bible & Study Bible, open Bible & Commentary show progress bar GIF endlessly. Also none of the links in the various cards work.
Basically nothing works.
I have Ghostery & 1Password extensions installed, if I disable both of them still the same — nothing works.
I have Firefox as secondary browser, tested that on same machines and the site does work in Firefox. Still slow though.
Performance wise, below is a trace route to the app.logos.com site, of course the web app also takes resources from a whole bunch of servers on the Internet, any one of which can on/off have performance issues and slow down the app.
Hop 5 is in the Amsterdam Internet Exchange (I am in the Netherlands), one of the largest exchanges in Europe and one of the main entry points for overseas cables to Europe (i.e. about as close as is going to get to a resource coming in from the West Coast of the US).
Hops 2 & 3 IP addresses removed intentionally.
Performance is going to be better in England because most undersea data cables from the US east coast hits landfall in the UK before Europe.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com
traceroute to app.logos.com (192.58.0.33), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 2.005 ms 0.475 ms 0.470 ms2 xx.xx.xx.xx (xx.xx.xx.xx) 12.477 ms 9.971 ms 9.819 ms3 xx.xx.xx.xx (xx.xx.xx.xx) 16.895 ms 10.954 ms 10.013 ms4 nl-ams17b-rc1-lag-8-0.aorta.net (84.116.135.37) 13.869 ms 12.300 ms 18.030 ms5 nl-ams14a-ri1-ae8-0.aorta.net (84.116.135.38) 13.933 ms 12.553 ms 14.758 ms6 be3065.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.1) 15.417 ms 13.266 ms 13.496 ms7 be2182.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.77.246) 25.891 ms 23.703 ms 22.531 ms8 be3042.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.162) 112.531 ms 113.811 ms 112.974 ms9 be3259.ccr21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.41.205) 128.008 ms 129.448 ms 129.758 ms10 be2993.ccr21.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.31.225) 129.541 ms 130.581 ms 129.283 ms11 be2717.ccr41.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.221) 130.684 ms 130.328 ms 129.643 ms12 be2831.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.165) 143.448 ms 140.965 ms 141.509 ms13 be3035.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.89) 152.279 ms 159.127 ms 157.742 ms14 be3037.ccr21.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.41.145) 174.378 ms 173.659 ms 172.916 ms15 be2085.ccr21.sea02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.197) 188.217 ms 187.748 ms 190.319 ms16 38.104.126.58 (38.104.126.58) 184.900 ms 185.858 ms 192.827 ms17 cr1-tuk2-t7-4.bb.spectrumnet.us (174.127.141.22) 238.057 ms cr1-tuk2-t7-1.bb.spectrumnet.us (174.127.141.18) 358.681 ms 235.328 ms18 * * *19 *^C
The Logos web app server is in a colocation in Seattle close to the Logos office?
OrgName: vanoppen.biz LLCOrgId: VIS-47Address: C/O Spectrum Networks OperationsAddress: 2200 6th AVEAddress: Suite 905City: SeattleStateProv: WAPostalCode: 98121Country: US
Hi Patrick
Where in Europe are you trying to run the app?
Graham Criddle: Hi Patrick Where in Europe are you trying to run the app?
Hi Graham - I was adding to my first reply as you were writing this. Pls see further info in my recent post.
Patrick
I am on Safari 10.1.1 and macOS Sierra with my 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.
It is very fast for me, I have a 4G LTE connection by telephone with 40Mbps.
I am in Kyrgyzstan, i have no problems with any of the links working, everything loads up very fast.
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Patrick S.: Graham Criddle: Hi Patrick Where in Europe are you trying to run the app? Hi Graham - I was adding to my first reply as you were writing this. Pls see further info in my recent post.
Thanks Patrick
Looks very useful information.
Graham