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Bobbie Jean Williams | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 1 2010 1:31 PM

I am a newbie in using this software/program etc.  I purchased and downloaded Vines Expository Dictionary.  However, I was unable to open and or use the program because I did not have a program associated with the extension.  I downloaded the software that I thought would enable me to open my purchase.  However, it is not true.  I even purchased regcure to get the proper file extension on my computer.  Still no luck.  I have unlocked and downloaded to no avail.  What am I missing?? I am confident that God will inspire someone out there to help me.

Tried calling logos support - but 20 minutes later I had to hang up.  Thank you

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 1:35 PM

Have you installed Logos 4 (or Libronix) on your machine? You don't pay for the program but it is necessary to use the resources.

If you have Logos 4 installed, start it and tell me what you see when you click of the library icon (book in upper left)

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Bobbie Jean Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 1:40 PM

I have installed libronix.  Do I also need Logos 4?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 2:51 PM

Bobbie Jean Williams:

I have installed libronix.  Do I also need Logos 4?

No you don't need Logos 4 - but if you haven't been a Logos user in the past I would start with the current version i.e. Logos 4.

What happens when you open Libronix?

 

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 3:11 PM

Bobbie Jean and Martha:

I am not sure which engine is installed.  I normally think of Libronix as being the Level 3 engine, and Logos as being the Level 4 engine.  Which one she needs will depend on which resource she has purchased.  It sounds to me that there may be a conflict between what resource she has and what engine she has downloaded.  

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 3:15 PM

Floyd Johnson:

I normally think of Libronix as being the Level 3 engine, and Logos as being the Level 4 engine.  Which one she needs will depend on which resource she has purchased.  It sounds to me that there may be a conflict between what resource she has and what engine she has downloaded.  

The Libronix (Level 3) products run on Logos 4 without problems. There are some products that do not yet have a L4 version (there was a recent thread on that). But items from a disk do need to be loaded first into L3 and then picked up by L4 (generally).

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Bobbie Jean Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 4:59 PM

Well - I just tried again and it is working.  Thanks for all the input.  I will be back if I have anymore problems. 

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Bobbie Jean Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 5:01 PM

It is all set.  Thanks for the input.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 5:04 PM

MJ. Smith:

But items from a disk do need to be loaded first into L3 and then picked up by L4 (generally).

She said she ordered and downloaded it, so this shouldn't be necessary.

UPDATE: Before I even finished posting this, you posted that you've got it working now, so the first part of this is now irrelevant, but still read the rest.

Bobbie Jean, if you can't get Libronix/L3 running or can't open Vine's with it, you can install Logos 4 for free:

     http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/Logos4Setup.exe

Just installing the engine (which is free) won't give you access to any other books besides this one that you've bought, unless you already had a library of books in Libronix. But it sounds like you're a brand new user to Logos, so I'm guesing you didn't.

Unlike other software (such as Word) where a document with a file extension is something you open in your software, and the file extension has to be associated with your program through the Windows Explorer so that you can double click on the document to open it, Logos keeps track of what books you have in your library and indexes them all, so that you can open them from within the program by opening your Library and double clicking on a book title.

You'll need to watch some of the videos to learn how to use it. Start here:  www.logos.com/videos

Also, if this is the only book you've ordered, you're going to have a very limited idea of what Logos can do for you. You might want to consider getting one of the very inexpensive entry-level library packages to have at least a Bible and a few other reference books. It's all the interlinking between resources that makes it so powerful. Using Logos 4 to access just one electronic book is kind of like using a BMW to sit in and listen to the radio.

Here are some cheap entry level packages that will allow you to take Logos 4 for more of a spin; pick one that seems to align best with your theological tradition or favorite author

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1072 (NAS Electronic Bible Library)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/5833 (John MacArthur Essential Bible Study Library (25 Vols.))

http://www.logos.com/products/details/5197 (Collegeville Catholic Reference Library: Basic Scripture Edition, Version 1)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/5848 (Preacher's Essential Library) - currently on backorder

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1505 (R. C. Sproul Digital Library)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744 (Concordia Electronic Theological Library - Collection 1; Lutheran perspective)

EDIT: Here are a bunch more cheap ways into the Logos library system:

http://www.logos.com/products/details/2066 (The Jeremiah LifeWorks Library)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/4436 (The Jeremiah LifeWorks Library 2.0)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/3843 (The McGee Lifeworks Library)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/3380 (The Stanley Lifeworks Library)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/3950 (MacArthur Lifeworks Library 2.0)

http://www.logos.com/products/details/2069 (WEA Theological Resource Library, Version 3) - currently on backorder

All of these come on CD and were made for Libronix, so they'll need to be installed in Libronix first, but then Logos 4 will pick them up automatically next time you start it up (if you have synced your licenses with Logos's server from within Libronix, which is part of the installation process).

The most basic starter package built especially for Logos 4 which will take better advantage of the new Logos 4 interface and features is the Christian Home Library:

http://www.logos.com/christianhome

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Bobbie Jean Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 5:15 PM

Thank you.  I will follow your advice and view the videos.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 10:31 PM

Rosie Perera:
She said she ordered and downloaded it, so this shouldn't be necessary.

Correct. I just didn't want some one else to assume it applied in all cases ... too much of a logician in me again.Cool

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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