Dropping Support for iOS 10.0 and below

Hello everyone,

With the upcoming release of an updated Logos Bible app, we'll be dropping support for devices that are running iOS 10.0 and below. The vast majority of Logos users are running devices with 10.1 above, so chances are you won't be impacted.

For those that are running Logos on your 10.0 or below device, you will still be able to use Logos. However, it's unsupported, which means that if you delete it off of your device, you won't be able to get it back. Its performance will degrade over time, and some features may stop working.

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DMB

Well, the vast majority (99% of 51%) will have to proceed forward without me. Logos apps are well known for re-install or in this case, not.

Luckily we're not talking religious software. And luckily my other 150 secular apps are still getting updates along with my Kindles. It's amazing (yes, familiar with Apple's go forward update ideas).

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934453#Comment_934453

Out of curiosity Denise, is your device so old that it can't update, or do you just not want to update? What version of iOS are you running?

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934469#Comment_934469

I have a couple older V9 devices. One I use for a bedroom clock. The other I use for blue tooth speaker receiver. So I don't use Logos on them anyway and if I did it would be so doggy, good grief! I would just pick up a new device and actually use it. But that is just me.

Bernhard

However, it's unsupported, which means that if you delete it off of your device, you won't be able to get it back.

My experience is that Apple usually allows older devices to download an older version of the app (but only if you have bought it before or from a device with the newer OS). Is that not the case for all apps?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934469#Comment_934469

Out of curiosity Denise, is your device so old that it can't update, or do you just not want to update? What version of iOS are you running?

Yes, mine's pretty old ... 3 yrs or so. Though if I got a newer one, I suspect it wouldn't survive ios11.

But I was surprised at Logos out the gate dumping so quickly ... Logos is always pushing people to embrace Amazon. And maybe that's the answer. I have 5 Kindle installations, all happily maintained.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934491#Comment_934491

Yes, mine's pretty old ... 3 yrs or so.

...then it should be able to run either iOS 10.1.x or iOS 11.x.x. Is there a reason you are hesitant to update?

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934504#Comment_934504

Yes, mine's pretty old ... 3 yrs or so.

...then it should be able to run either iOS 10.1.x or iOS 11.x.x. Is there a reason you are hesitant to update?

According to my (hasty and incomplete) research the iPad Air version one (Nov 2013) is the oldest iPad able to run iOS 11.

I must confess bemusement at buying into the Apple system and then ignoring one of its major selling points - reliable, free, security updates and system upgrades. You pay a premium for a safe system and then deliberately undermine that system.

Why not save your money and go with Android whose users are upgrade adverse according to to the received wisdom. :-)

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934516#Comment_934516

My iPhone 4s no longer updates and its not all that old. I have 2 iPads that wont either. All three are maybe 4-5 years old?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934558#Comment_934558

The iPhone 4s is 6 years old. I assume your iPads are that old as well.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934504#Comment_934504

Yes, mine's pretty old ... 3 yrs or so.

...then it should be able to run either iOS 10.1.x or iOS 11.x.x. Is there a reason you are hesitant to update?

3 yrs for me ... the mini3. But I doubt even the mini4 will survive ios11. I have a $1k purchase coming up with Logos ... I'll have to think about the app blowing up. I'm still waiting on Apple to formally ditch the mini.

Regarding my Accordance and OT, I never worry ... solid as rocks. Logos shrugs at poor coding (but not like Atlas shrugs; big difference).

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934574#Comment_934574

3 yrs for me ... the mini3. But I doubt even the mini4 will survive ios11.

In my experience, even if an older device can be upgraded, they eventually just don't have enough processing power or memory to keep up with the latest features -- everything tended to become sluggish at some point.

I've got a pre-Air iPad (which can only run iOS 9), but some stable version of Logos still runs on it, which is good enough for simply reading. While it may have vulnerabilities which have been patched in newer versions of iOS, I can't afford to buy resources AND also replace devices every few years.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934578#Comment_934578

I have had many apple iOS devices and have never had one yet become unusable after an iOS update. Apple stops support of models when they cannot handle a new iOS... also poor performance is sometimes because they are bloated too full of stuff my iPhone 6 was being some what unresponsive on iOS 10.3.3 but when i deleted some music allowing more space on the phone i found performance was fine. I have kept my phone from updating to 11 because it irks me that I will lose my Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary (since it is not 11 compatible). But I suspect it would run fine on 11. Until its battery finally went my iPhone 3gs functioned great with it's highest available iOS...

-dan

Nord Zootman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934574#Comment_934574

I am running the LOGOS app on on a Mini 2 with IOS 11.1.1 and have not experienced any issues at all.

Peter Osborn

Would you be able to add me to the iPhone X beta?

Peter

Mikko Paavola

For those that are running Logos on your 10.0 or below device, you will still be able to use Logos. However, it's unsupported, which means that if you delete it off of your device, you won't be able to get it back. Its performance will degrade over time, and some features may stop working.

Hi!
You can always install the latest version that works with your iOS device from AppStore. Just go to Updates -> Your purchased apps (not sure what's the name in the English AppStore, I'm using different language version), find the right app and press the cloud icon. The device tells you that the latest version won't work in it and asks if you want to install an older version. That's for every app that are available in the AppStore and that you've installed before in the same AppleID account (the same or some other device).

Eduardo Espiritu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934469#Comment_934469

Apple won’t update the older iPad mini unless it has more than the minimum memory.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/938882#Comment_938882

Apple won’t update the older iPad mini unless it has more than the minimum memory.

Eduardo Espiritu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/938903#Comment_938903

My 32G ipad updates; this 16G one says 9.3 is up to date.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/939341#Comment_939341

My 32G ipad updates; this 16G one says 9.3 is up to date.

Can you not update it through iTunes on your Mac/PC?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/938882#Comment_938882

Apple won’t update the older iPad mini unless it has more than the minimum memory.

I still don't understand your post. I do understand that the highest available operating system for the original iPad mini is iOS 9. FWIW - the device is five years old and is considered "Obsolete" by Apple.

What did you mean by "unless it has more than the minimum memory?" That was what was confusing.

Eduardo Espiritu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/939345#Comment_939345

I'll try.

Eduardo Espiritu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/939345#Comment_939345

Same message on iTunes as on iPad. I'll bring it to the store and have them do it, next. Doing a full backup now.

Mikko Paavola

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/939395#Comment_939395

Same message on iTunes as on iPad. I'll bring it to the store and have them do it, next. Doing a full backup now.

It won't update. iPad Mini (the 1st edition) doesn't support iOS 10 or 11. The storage space amount doesn't affect that. It's the iPad model that is too old.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices

But you can continue to use the current version of Logos app also in your iPad Mini.