The Greek New Testament, Produced at Tyndale House, Cambridge

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Rev. Matthew Fenn | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 16 2017 9:45 AM

When do we get to see this on Logos?!

https://www.crossway.org/articles/introducing-the-greek-new-testament-produced-at-tyndale-house-cambridge/

https://www.thegreeknewtestament.com/

Looks like it's being offered digitally for free. No reason why Logos can't grab a copy then!

https://www.thegreeknewtestament.com/printanddigitaleditions/

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Kevin Wang | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 11:52 AM

I would love to see this in Logos too! 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 2:23 PM

Matthew Fenn:


Looks like it's being offered digitally for free. No reason why Logos can't grab a copy then!

Do you have a link or page for this?

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Rev. Matthew Fenn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 2:33 PM

From https://www.crossway.org/articles/study-the-greek-new-testament-for-free-at-esvorg/

Startreading The Greek New Testament, Produced at Tyndale House, Cambridge today at ESV.org/GNT.

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 2:37 PM

Matthew Fenn:
Looks like it's being offered digitally for free. No reason why Logos can't grab a copy then!

Actually, just because something is available on the web doesn't mean we (Faithlife/Logos) can just grab it. Crossway have retained commercial rights for this edition, so it will need to be licensed from them.

I believe we've proceeded down that road, I just don't know if/when it will be available in Logos.

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Rev. Matthew Fenn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 2:38 PM

Here's a review with links to some other reviews:

http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.ca/2017/11/initial-thoughts-on-tyndale-house-greek.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+blogspot/iUoHr+(Evangelical+Textual+Criticism)&m=1

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 3:15 PM

Thank you.  I find it intriguing because the textual basis of ESV was most certainly not this GNT.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 16 2017 7:58 PM

Lee:

Thank you.  I find it intriguing because the textual basis of ESV was most certainly not this GNT.

True, as it wasn't available. Would they have done so if it was? I doubt it. Using a text that doesn't have broad scholarly support for your translation would be a risky undertaking. We'll have to see how the scholarly support idea works out. I suspect it will not be the GNT used in most seminaries.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 17 2017 5:47 AM

Mark Smith:

True, as it wasn't available. Would they have done so if it was? I doubt it. Using a text that doesn't have broad scholarly support for your translation would be a risky undertaking. We'll have to see how the scholarly support idea works out. I suspect it will not be the GNT used in most seminaries.

Indeed. I find this tie-in intriguing. Maybe some revisions to the ESV are in the works. What would be very helpful is a table of substantive differences between this work and NA28/UBS5.

According to the editors:

The editors of the [sic] The Greek New Testament, Produced at Tyndale House, Cambridge believe that some significant improvements can be made relative to other existing editions. Two notable examples include:

  1. No previous edition has ever used recent studies on the habits of scribes to inform editorial decisions as to what the earliest text was. Recent decades have provided a wealth of material regarding the errors scribes were likely to make, thereby providing the means for the Tyndale House editors to make more informed decisions about textual history.

  2. In general, previous editors have allowed themselves considerable liberty in standardizing spelling, making paragraph divisions, deciding punctuation, and other matters. Sometimes this has meant that modern editions have standardized spellings or introduced textual divisions against a very strong consensus of early manuscript witnesses. This may hide significant data about the origin and even interpretation of the Greek New Testament, as it is not possible to study the extent of variation of the spellings in the New Testament based on editions currently available.

Attention to these and other philological details will make The Greek New Testament, Produced at Tyndale House, Cambridge a particularly useful edition from which to begin philological investigation.

For the record, I welcome such endeavours and would also like to see it in Logos.

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Cromwell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 8 2018 6:12 AM

Please can we have an update on when this resource is coming to Logos?  It's worth it for the insight it gives into early paragraphing alone, aside from the scholarly benefits behind its approach to textual criticism.  I use it all the time and would much rather buy it in Logos than have to call up a website all the time.

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Cromwell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 21 2018 3:02 AM

Please can someone from Faithlife update us on when this will be available?  

It seems a little bit of a tease to highlight it on the Logos Academic Blog in September 2017 (https://academic.logos.com/interview-williams-and-jongkind-on-the-tyndale-house-greek-new-testament-thgnt/ ) and then go silent!

(The direct competition has had it available since March.)

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Michael S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 21 2018 11:58 AM

Cromwell:

(The direct competition has had it available since March.)

Often makes me wonder why this is the case.  The competition often has sales that FL does not as well.  Is the overhead cost and the labor to tag and such that much more difficult and higher than the competition?  Hmmm...

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 19 2018 1:23 PM

The Greek New Testament, Produced at Tyndale House, Cambridge is now on Pre-Pub. 

https://www.logos.com/product/165945/the-greek-new-testament-produced-at-tyndale-house-cambridge 

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/148261.aspx 

HT: Mike Aubrey 

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