Dataset Updates: December 18, 2017

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Dec 18 2017 10:27 AM

Merry Christmas! Today we have a bonus dataset/resource update.

The following datasets are scheduled to be updated on Monday, December 18, 2017:

Reverse Interlinears

  • RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now
    • Old Testament
    • Apocrypha (now complete)
    • New Testament
  • NIV84:
    • Old Testament
    • New Testament

Other Updated Datasets / Components

  • Ancient Literature (Localization Updates)
  • LCV Concepts
    • IB103 Principios de interpretacion biblica (Craig Keener)
  • Bible Sense Lexicon (Localization Updates)

If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Monday, December 18) I will update this thread.

Our next anticipated dataset update will be January 2, 2018. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!

Rick Brannan
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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 18 2017 10:34 AM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Reverse Interlinears

  • RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now
    • Old Testament
    • Apocrypha (now complete)
    • New Testament
  • NIV84:
    • Old Testament
    • New Testament

A very Merry Christmas, indeed! Thank you! Yes

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 18 2017 10:52 AM

Thanks, Rick, for the update. Hoping that Christmas will be a blessed time for all at Faithlife. 

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Marshall Harrison | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 5:48 AM

Thanks Rick!

I saw those come through yesterday but though they were part of a feature set purchase I made.

Merry Christmas to FaithLife and everyone else in this community.

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Jacques | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 10:37 AM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Reverse Interlinears

  • RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now
    • Old Testament
    • Apocrypha (now complete)
    • New Testament
  • NIV84:
    • Old Testament
    • New Testament

Not sure if this is a typo or if the NIV84 now also includes a OT RI. Nothing updated for the Old Testament, so probably just an oversight?

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:02 AM

Jacques:

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Reverse Interlinears

  • RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now
    • Old Testament
    • Apocrypha (now complete)
    • New Testament
  • NIV84:
    • Old Testament
    • New Testament

Not sure if this is a typo or if the NIV84 now also includes a OT RI. Nothing updated for the Old Testament, so probably just an oversight?

You should now have the NIV84 OT RI.

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Jacques | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:11 AM

Thanks Scott, great news.

Will investigate further why it is not showing up for me.

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:21 AM

Jacques:

Will investigate further why it is not showing up for me.

The NIV84 Old Testament Reverse Interlinear was included in Logos 4 (and maybe Logos 5?) base packages. It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale. (I have no information on whether this will ever change.) It's being delivered now to customers who purchased it in Logos 4.

(Edit: As far as I can tell, Logos 5 base packages included the NIV2011 reverse interlinear, but not NIV84.)

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:47 AM

From what I understand, Zondervan required all Bible software publishers to stop selling the NIV 1984 edition. Zondervan only licensed the NIV 2011 in its place. So if you had a previous license for it, great, if not then the 2011 version is the only one available right now.

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Jacques | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:53 AM

Thank you Bradley for your detailed response.

I had the NIV84 since Logos 2. I only got the Logos 4 crossgrade, so I probably lost out on the OT RI during that upgrade. It seems I'm stuck with only the NT RI. 

Thanks anyway, puzzle solved

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Marshall Harrison | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:05 PM

Jacques:

Thank you Bradley for your detailed response.

I had the NIV84 since Logos 2. I only got the Logos 4 crossgrade, so I probably lost out on the OT RI during that upgrade. It seems I'm stuck with only the NT RI. 

Thanks anyway, puzzle solved

If my memory is correct I have had every update since Logos 2. I have the NIV84 but only showed the NT RI dataset upgraded for NIV84.

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Marshall Harrison | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:11 PM

Where are you seeing all this info? I see this:

But when I click the drop down arrow I only see a small list that looks nothing like what everyone is showing.

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:15 PM

Marshall Harrison:

Where are you seeing all this info? I see this:

But when I click the drop down arrow I only see a small list that looks nothing like what everyone is showing.

Open the resource and click on the information tab on the right side - it's an i with a circle around it.

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:23 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale.

Hmmm . . . I certainly hope there’s a meeting concerning this initial decision. Logos has gone and created something (for which I am very grateful was fulfilled) for a product Logos no longer sells. Why not offer it for sale to those who have the NIV84?

That just seems like a strange business decision. I mean, you’re only going to make X amount from it no matter what since you don’t sell the resource anymore. Why not have a few happy customers and make a little money in the process?

Just a thought. I’ll leave it to those who want it to chime in now . . .

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Marshall Harrison | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:31 PM

Thanks Scott.

When I open the NIV84 to the OT it looks like this with gaps where the interlinear should be.

The NT  shows the Interlinear like it is supposed to.

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:39 PM

It would appear you do not have access to the OT RI, as well. I would start a new thread in the suggestion forum, if I wanted it, and let my voice be heard Wink

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:42 PM

Hi Scott

Scott E. Mahle:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale.

Hmmm . . . I certainly hope there’s a meeting concerning this initial decision. Logos has gone and created something (for which I am very grateful was fulfilled) for a product Logos no longer sells. Why not offer it for sale to those who have the NIV84?

We've known there are a sizeable amount of unfulfilled licenses for the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear for years. We did some analysis of what it would take to get the necessary resource together, and discovered we could do this particular resource more efficiently than before based on some process improvements we've made, so we decided to do it to deliver on the license that many users received back in the Logos 4 days.

As Bradley indicates, it is not part of Logos Now, and it is not presently available for standalone sale (nor is the NIV84 NT Reverse Interlinear, for that matter). Will that change in the future? Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

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Jacques | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:53 PM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):
As Bradley indicates, it is not part of Logos Now, and it is not presently available for standalone sale (nor is the NIV84 NT Reverse Interlinear, for that matter). Will that change in the future? Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

Apparently the NT RI is available for purchase in Feature Sets.

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 1:00 PM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

Hello Rick!

Two years ago I would have believed you Smile. I'm actually still quite amazed it was delivered. That was a great Christmas present!

Maybe if those who don't have it, but would like it, let their collective voices be heard, Logos will open it for sale or drop it in a feature set.

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 1:07 PM

Jacques:
Apparently the NT RI is available for purchase in Feature Sets.

Thank you for the info, Jacques. I was unaware.

Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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