Did Logos remove the BHQ from the "Stuttgart Scholarly Editions"
Both Scholarly editions had the BHQ.
https://www.logos.com/product/55084/stuttgart-scholarly-editions-old-testament
Quoting from the overwiew........
"Get scholarly editions and text-critical databases in your Logos library to do the heavy lifting for you. With the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions: Old Testament, you’ll have access to the critical apparatuses and editions of the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, the Biblia Hebraica Quinta, and the Biblia Sacra Vulgata, along with Hebrew and Greek lexical materials to support your word research and language studies. These texts and apparatuses form the backbone of every serious scholar’s digital library, powering important cutting-edge research for textual criticism, translation, interpretation, and biblical origins.
Interesting to know what happened?
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Looks separated ... and higher price (both products).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Hi there,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! Unfortunately, the publisher requested we pull the title. We've updated the copy to reflect the BHQ is no longer in the collection.
Thanks!
Denise said:Looks separated ... and higher price (both products).
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What about those of us who purchased it and have been promised the rest as it becomes available?
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Hi John,
This change shouldn't affect you or others who previously purchased the product.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify!
John Goodman said:What about those of us who purchased it and have been promised the rest as it becomes available?
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When will BHQ be available in Logos again? I was shown that it exists in Accordance.
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Nathaniel yates said:
When will BHQ be available in Logos again? I was shown that it exists in Accordance.
Nathaniel, welcome to the forums! See this thread for more info, but unfortunately no new info on when it will return to Logos.
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So, I own the Stuttgart collection (have for years), but I have no BHQ in my library. Shouldn't I have it, per the comments above?
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Did you purchase the collection before BHQ was added to then removed from it?
You might be able to see from your order history what the collection contained at time of purchase, providing that FL made new bundles when resources were added to the collection.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Did you purchase the collection before BHQ was added to then removed from it?
That's one missing functionality pair that FL oddly doesn't support ... (a) knowing what you bought by collection/package and (b) remembering (for literally years) what FL still owes you.
I'm down to screen shots of carts, it's so silly.
Regarding Stuttgart, the issue was/is especially obnoxious, since at the time, there could be several packages, some changing, adding, disappearing. I remember Matthew, and the arguments ... ooops ... discussions.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I bought the SSE collection and I see that BHQ Genesis was added to my library and now in addition to all the individual volume listings I have one that is simply titled Biblia Hebraica Quinta which has them all (downloaded last Wednesday). However, the website still lists this resource as available for purchase: https://www.logos.com/product/166089/genesis. Yes my license is listed as permanent.
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Denise said:
That's one missing functionality pair that FL oddly doesn't support
There’s some inconsistency at play.
For commentary series (which have nn vols in the title), FL seems to leave the prior bundle up (but non-purchasable), and creates a new productId/bundle with the added/deleted resources.
Perhaps they can’t do that in general, because it would slow down (searching) the store?
Anyway, it’s unfortunate that the burden is on the user to keep track of specifics.
Denise said:knowing what you bought by collection/package
Occasionally, I have good results finding collections/packages from years ago, using the wayback machine.
Since FL knows what we purchased, and when we purchased it, I hope they will eventually improve the library to include columns for order number, order date, etc.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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My order history goes back to 2003, but searching for the text of SESB or Stuttgart doesn’t turn up anything in my purchases. And yet there they are, unlocked in logos for me.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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IIRC, I got mine on CD, so that tells you how long ago it was.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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So, when I search Logos for BHQ, it makes it look like you can buy the apparatus/notes separately, because it lists them as books with a price. However, you can't actually add them to your cart, and (more relevant to me), Genesis isn't listed there. I'm quite interested in acquiring the Genesis notes, but $49 seems like a high price for notes on a single volume when I already have the SESB.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Did you check https://www.logos.com/product/186552/biblia-hebraica-quinta-with-apparatus-bhq for your dynamic price for Genesis?
Have joy in the Lord!
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I did. Genesis isn't actually listed among the volumes there.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Ben said:
I did. Genesis isn't actually listed among the volumes there.
Too bad you didn't pick it up on CP (really cheap) or pre-pub. I always try to get in on CP, beause of the discount, and you can always cancel when it hits pre-pub. No penalty for participating in the CP resource bidding.
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This change shouldn't affect you or others who previously purchased the product.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify!
I should be in that category and deliberately held off the pre-pub and pre-order, but Genesis is now a purchasable separate resource. What gives?
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Lee said:
Genesis is now a purchasable separate resource. What gives?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original Quinta package in SESB was a specific list of included books, with the prophets being the last to complete 'the promise'. Genesis was/is new ground (separate).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original Quinta package in SESB was a specific list of included books, with the prophets being the last to complete 'the promise'. Genesis was/is new ground (separate).
I could be wrong, honestly, but IIRC the BHQ product was said to be an ongoing thing and more fascicles would be included in the purchase as and when available.
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Ben said:
So, I own the Stuttgart collection (have for years), but I have no BHQ in my library. Shouldn't I have it, per the comments above?
Hi Ben,
I am sorry, we have had different versions of the Stuttgart collection over the years. You have an early version that did not include the BHQ because we did not have it available yet.
I apologize for the confusion.
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Lee said:
I could be wrong, honestly, but IIRC the BHQ product was said to be an ongoing thing and more fascicles would be included in the purchase as and when available.
Denise is correct. When we had to re-issue the BHQ, we gave it for free to those who had the previous version. This was done in installments because it took some time to complete the different sections one by one. So that promise was fulfilled.
Now we have moved on to offering sections like Genesis, which were never available before. These need to be purchased as they become available, because there are no customers that own a "previous version".
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I'll take your word for it, Joe. Thanks.
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