What does RAM do while running Logos?

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018 9:08 PM

The title says it all, does it store the resources as I open them? I have 4gb and notice some scrolling glitching....

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 2:28 AM

Mike Tourangeau:

The title says it all, does it store the resources as I open them? I have 4gb and notice some scrolling glitching....

Logos itself will likely use less than 1Gb RAM. However, your operating system will use any 'spare' RAM to cache files (or parts of files) that it has previously read. That can significantly speed up applications that repeatedly access the same files again and again. Logos very much falls into that category.

If you only have 4Gb RAM, there will be very little space for your operating system to cache files. So there would be a noticeable improvement if you went to 8Gb (not as big as the jump from an HD to an SSD, but certainly noticeable). Jumping from 8Gb to 16Gb would also bring a small improvement, but is less noticeable. Moving to 32Gb from 16Gb is unlikely to make any difference at all.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:11 AM

My ram is usually out in my front yard BAAAAAA-ing at his ladies, also in my front yard. My other rams sit out there BAAAAA-ing for their mom to let them eat.



But if you meant the computer type ram as opposed to the living animal Mark is right :)

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:37 AM

Mark Barnes:
Logos itself will likely use less than 1Gb RAM.

That makes me wonder is there anything they could do to improve speed on systems with a lot of ram?

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Dave Thawley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:38 AM

It depends on the operating system but more ram is usually better.  I know in the UK though it is cheap to upgrade memory so I bet you could double yours for 40 or 50 dollars if you have a standard laptop of desktop PC. 

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Dave Thawley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 6:40 AM

John Goodman:
That makes me wonder is there anything they could do to improve speed on systems with a lot of ram?

A solid state drive made a huge difference for me. 

If you have a desk top it could be worth investing in a low end graphics card as well.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 7:13 AM

Thanks everyone 

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Alexander Fogassy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 8:25 AM

I would go with at least 8GB of RAM. I have 16 in both my laptop and desktop and really have no need for more than that. 

The biggest difference in speed for Logos, it has been said, is the change from a hard-disk to a solid-state-drive. This is because the ability for the CPU to access the indexes relies heavily upon the storage used. Solid-state-drives are by far the preferred choice. 

I know a thing or two about computers, and if you are ever in the business of getting a new one, I would highly recommend M.2 NVMe drives. They hook into PCI-express slots instead of regular SATA II cables and speeds are 10x faster than SATA (which is 10x faster than hard-disk). 

The above accompanied with 8 or 16 GB of RAM and a decent CPU will render you Logos machine quite satisfactory. 

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 8:28 AM

Alexander Fogassy:

I would go with at least 8GB of RAM. I have 16 in both my laptop and desktop and really have no need for more than that. 

The biggest difference in speed for Logos, it has been said, is the change from a hard-disk to a solid-state-drive. This is because the ability for the CPU to access the indexes relies heavily upon the storage used. Solid-state-drives are by far the preferred choice. 

I know a thing or two about computers, and if you are ever in the business of getting a new one, I would highly recommend M.2 NVMe drives. They hook into PCI-express slots instead of regular SATA II cables and speeds are 10x faster than SATA (which is 10x faster than hard-disk). 

The above accompanied with 8 or 16 GB of RAM and a decent CPU will render you Logos machine quite satisfactory. 

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