Survey: Carta Jerusalem

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018 1:47 PM

Please take this short survey about Carta Jerusalem, even if you don't know what it is. Please don't research it before taking the survey. We'd like to capture your current knowledge and feelings. Thank you.

https://goo.gl/forms/bALJV90da9D0Ek2D2

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 1:58 PM

Thank you, Phil :)

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 2:00 PM

Thanks for the survey.

Some of Carta's other books are not mentioned in the survey. Carta has many titles that I think I'd acquire, e.g. Menashe Har-El's Landscape, Nature and Man in the Bible. I think (hope?) bringing such titles to a worldwide digital market would be a win-win.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 2:03 PM

The survey strikes me as a very savvy move on the part of Logos/Faithlife. It was a pleasure to fill it out (even though I didn't realize there are so many Carta titles)..

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 2:27 PM

I’d love for Logos to sell Bundles and Individual volumes. If they start out bundling everything it will probably get too expensive. 

DAL

Ps.  In a way, the survey doesn’t really make sense because how are people going to answer any of the questions if they don’t know what CARTA Jerusalem is?

Gauging by the requests made here in the forums, maybe only a few of us know what CARTA really is and actually own some their books.  If that’s the case then that might create a huge problem when putting it in prepub  because there won’t be many orders to help with the production costs. Unless, of course, FL and the Publisher partner to produce it and just sell it. Invest now, get profits later.  Once people know what CARTA is, they’ll start buying for sure. Guaranteed! 👍😁👌

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 2:31 PM

Phil??

You need to edit some questions: Your first question:

"Do you know what Carta Jerusalem is? (Chose the best answer) I choose "NO."

your second question about the Sacred Bridge? is that part of Carta? I choose "NO" again.

What do you like most about Carta Books? (chose the best answer.) I choose "other". My response, "I don't even know what they are so how am I supposed to answer that."

How interested are you in having the following Carta books in Logos? How am I supposed to answer that? Uninterested? Somewhat interested? Very interested? I don't know these books. give me a link, direct me to the publisher, supply something to me so I can give you an intelligent response.

How likely would you be to purchase Carta books in Logos? Same as above. I DON'T KNOW. 

HOW MUCH WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY FOR ALL CARTA BOOKS IN LOGOS? RIGHT NOW??? ZIP, NOTHING. NADA, ZERO.

As a business owner I would certainly tweek those questions and give my customers way more info on what Carta is for those who don't know what it is. My main object is to make money, give my customers fresh quality products, be dependable with my deliveries and give them what they want on time.

So if you're looking for  sales - change the survey. For now? I'm out unless you give me information.

I suppose you got your answer to MY current knowledge and feelings Smile Hope it helps. 

All this IMHO

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Joshua Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 3:08 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Please take this short survey about Carta Jerusalem, even if you don't know what it is. Please don't research it before taking the survey. We'd like to capture your current knowledge and feelings. Thank you.

https://goo.gl/forms/bALJV90da9D0Ek2D2

Done. *is excited* Big Smile

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 3:15 PM

FWIW, I bought Accordance purely for the Carta collection. But I’d still buy a Logos version in a heartbeat. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 3:24 PM

Milkman:
As a business owner I would certainly tweek those questions and give my customers way more info on what Carta is for those who don't know what it is.

That would be putting the Carta before the horse. 

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JohnB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 3:30 PM

Milkman:

So if you're looking for  sales - change the survey. For now? I'm out unless you give me information.

I suppose you got your answer to MY current knowledge and feelings Smile Hope it helps.

I could not agree more with you on virtually all the points you were making. I have heard the enthusiasm of many of the forum but have yet to work out why. It is not that I am not interested in maps, My dad taught me to read british road maps (the old Bartholomews's ones) at the age of 8 as we cycled as a family and can I browse of a a new map for ages as a walker. This has spread to Bible maps but nothing I had read here has taught me WHY these maps would be so special on Logos. 

 
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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 4:50 PM

It’s not simply the quality of the maps and illustrations. It’s the combination of that and the text. You don’t look at a Carta atlas, you read it. 

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Roger Dittmar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 5:27 PM

Mark Barnes:
FWIW, I bought Accordance purely for the Carta collection. But I’d still buy a Logos version in a heartbeat. 

Ditto.

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 5:33 PM

Good one! - Here's grand dad and Prince.

JT (alabama24):

Milkman:
As a business owner I would certainly tweek those questions and give my customers way more info on what Carta is for those who don't know what it is.

That would be putting the Carta before the horse. 

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 5:36 PM

Hey Mark,

Give us an example or a website so we can see what the hoopla is all about.

Mark Barnes:

It’s not simply the quality of the maps and illustrations. It’s the combination of that and the text. You don’t look at a Carta atlas, you read it. 

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 6:08 PM

 I started to take the survey, but I don't know what Carta is........  if it means better maps, then yes I want that. 

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 6:25 PM

Mark Barnes:

It’s not simply the quality of the maps and illustrations. It’s the combination of that and the text. You don’t look at a Carta atlas, you read it. 

Well said, mate! 👍😁👌

DAL

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 7:54 PM

Milkman:

Hey Mark,

Give us an example or a website so we can see what the hoopla is all about.

While you're waiting, frankly you're asking for a lot, since Carta (a group of high quality books) are wide ranging .... and if Logos tagged, imagine! Below, a few samples ... the associated book is at the top. Note the depth, and breadth.

Map detailed to a specific era/location, with in-depth discussion:

Inclusion of correspondance, specific to the discussion:

Inscriptions and translations, all organized by time period:

Reconstructions specific to a source; not a general concep:


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Joshua Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 8:59 PM

Mark Barnes:

It’s not simply the quality of the maps and illustrations. It’s the combination of that and the text. You don’t look at a Carta atlas, you read it. 

Very well put, Mark.

Here's a sample from The Sacred Bridge:

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 9:36 PM

MM you likely have seen some of their works as they have be responsible for the best Bible Atlases for decades although their Macmillan Bible Atlas (as it was released for decades) has be criticized for boring maps but you cannot argue for the clarity and the amazing text going along with it.  Frankly some modern maps with their dayglow colours are in someways to me very off putting. I don’t know if FL will pursue this or not but it missing from their catalog has been for years a glaring hole. The maps in their premier work sacred bridge along with most others I have scene are high quality and very pleasant to look at, and considered much more attractive that the more monochromatic Macmilla ones. 

-Dan 

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Charlene | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 11:05 PM

Yahoo! This is encouraging! Oh, to think of Carta books in Logos...what a dream come true! ...the missing piece to my Bible software.Big Smile

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