Is there a way to create a series of commentaries using volumes from different sets WITHOUT having to edit the series title and losing that original information?
Not to the best of my knowledge - a resource can only be in one series at a time.
Thanks - that's what I was afraid of. I'd love to put together a "super set" but don't want to change the data.
But can't you create a "collection" (give it your own name) and add a single volume from a commentary series (from multiple commentary sets) to 'create your own' personal set? I thought I read that just a few days ago here on the forums. I haven't tried it myself yet.
Is there a way to create a series of commentaries using volumes from different sets WITHOUT having to edit the series title and losing that original information? Not to the best of my knowledge - a resource can only be in one series at a time.
Customized Titles and Series have original value out of view. Deleting customized title OR series followed by pressing enter restores original value.
Personally added series abbreviation in title prefix, which allows me to filter library for original series that has volumes in custom Top 2. After March Madness 2018, now have 56 NICOT OR NICNT volumes with 36 of them in custom Top 2 series:
Screen shot shows library sorted by Type then series with filter for NICOT OR NICNT
FYI: my Top 2 titles have "=" instead of ":" so can identify Top 2 in open tabs (and Bible Explorer, Passage Guide, ...).
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I'd like more information about your retitles, KS4J. Do you retitle the series, and the resource name, or is there more?
Thread reply => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 includes my initial Title and Abbreviated Title modification approach:
Commentary Titles (with preference for shorter title to show in Passage Guide, Search Results, Tabs, ...) ?< for Plagiarism Alert #### for Year Series OR Author (Author) is optional, which is helpful for series with more than one author for commentary on a book Separator is = for Top 2 and : for others Bible Book(s) Optional suffix Abbreviated Title Bible Book abbreviation(s) Series abbreviation #### Year is optional, which is helpful for series with more than one author for commentary on a book
Commentary Titles (with preference for shorter title to show in Passage Guide, Search Results, Tabs, ...)
Abbreviated Title
Living and Learning while liking Title modifications, have modified my titling a bit:
Updated Title convention:
FYI: optional suffix is typically year translated into English, which usually corresponds with publication date. (Author) can include list of Authors. Some commentary series known by primary author have a number of contributors.
Abbreviated Title update (since often appears in Tab due to original title + prefix being longish):
Likewise learned Library can be sorted by more than one level, which is helpful for title modification comparison. Screen shot shows work in progress to update Titles (for commentaries that are not in a Series):
Screen shot also shows MyTag customization from thread => Collection rules for sorting commentaries that has a number after Commentary to sort Historical groupings:
Wikipedia article => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening has four date ranges for Awakening with last one overlapping various categories (so am using time span of first three for Awakenings grouping).
Thankful for Morris Proctor mentioning at Camp Logos about lessons learned using Logos (make a mistake then revise for better use).
I'd love to put together a "super set" but don't want to change the data.
You can't change the data. You can only cover it up. If you type in a new series name, it'll show what you typed, but the original isn't lost. If you delete your custom name, the original reappears in its place.
I've changed series names to make my own (four, actually) super sets. The only drawback I can see is, I can't type in "series:pillar" (for example) and find all the Pillar commentaries. So when I change a commentary in a series, I tag that with the original series name so I can find all the (Pillar, say) commentaries if needed.
A long time ago I identified my top commentary I like for each book of the bible and I put all of them in the same series and removed them from the sets they belong too. Sometimes I have to change them out so I delete my series name and it restores the series to the set it belonged too. Then find the new commentary and add my series name to it. It's only 66 books or double that if you pick your two favorite commentaries for each book of the bible. Then my personal set I prioritize and when I run my reports the commentary I have chosen myself is always the first commentary in the report. I did the same thing with my bible dictionaries.
Ok, you set up, say, Matt66comm.
You need to change out the John comm + put in Zecnt John.
Does only oldJohn lose its Matt66comm designation...or, do all 66 lose Mat66comm, + thus you have to redo Matt66com 66 times for all the prized 66 comms?
Does only oldJohn lose its Matt66comm designation.
Yes. Change it in Resource Info (not Library) to be sure it is the only resource affected.
I really appreciate the time spent giving the answers above. I am currently renaming my commentaries using some of the info given. I want to rename then mostly so that when I look at the list of commentaries in a collection search, I can know instantly which commentary it is is rather than have to look at the picture or hover my cursor. When I'm finished, it hopefully will no longer be just Genesis, but a title that lets me know it's John Hartley's commentary on Genesis from the UBCS. I haven't seen a need to retitle the short title, but that may come in the future. Thanks again to all!
I am wondering, but not yet wandering, along these lines. I need to decide how much info in a name is too little, so, 6 months later, when a volume comes up in a search, I know what it is, rather than having to hover. I figure to do a few books on paper to see.
I am trying to figure out if I could just create 1 title: make it short only, or a hybrid short+, and still understand the shorthand later.
Thanks for the thread.
When I'm finished, it hopefully will no longer be just Genesis, but a title that lets me know it's John Hartley's commentary on Genesis from the UBCS. I haven't seen a need to retitle the short title, but that may come in the future.
Passage Guide and Search Results show Title. Opening resources can cause switch from Title to Abbreviated Title in Tabs. Example Milestone Search (sorted by count) has three results in several resources, including John Harley's volume in UBCS:
deliberate WITHIN {Milestone <Ge22>}
Screen shot shows opening three resources from milestone search has Abbreviated Titles for two of them.
Some Commentaries have a short Title: e.g. Hartley's "Genesis" while other Commentaries have a longer Title: e.g. Boice's "Genesis, Volume 2: A New Beginning (Genesis 12–36): An Expositional Commentary" Longer Title has more opportunity for Abbreviated Title to show in Tab. Boice's volume has a default Abbreviated Title of "Genesis 12-36 (Boice)" that is longer than my convention: "1998BEC Ge v2"
If a resource does not have an Abbreviated Title, then Logos/Verbum creates one: e.g. "Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible: Complete and Unabridged in One Volume" becomes MHCWB:CUOV so personally prefer 1728MH along with Title: "1728 MH(Henry,et al): Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible: Complete and Unabridged in One Volume (1994)" that shows content creation circa 1728 that was published in 1994. Included "et al" since many contributed to completion of Matthew Henry's commentary after his human tent departure in 1714.
I'd like more information about your retitles, KS4J. Do you retitle the series, and the resource name, or is there more? Thread reply => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 includes my initial Title and Abbreviated Title modification approach: Commentary Titles (with preference for shorter title to show in Passage Guide, Search Results, Tabs, ...) ?< for Plagiarism Alert #### for Year Series OR Author (Author) is optional, which is helpful for series with more than one author for commentary on a book Separator is = for Top 2 and : for others Bible Book(s) Optional suffix Abbreviated Title Bible Book abbreviation(s) Series abbreviation #### Year is optional, which is helpful for series with more than one author for commentary on a book Living and Learning while liking Title modifications, have modified my titling a bit: Updated Title convention: ?< for Plagiarism Alert #### for Year Initials: Series OR Author (Author) Separator is = for Top 2 (with * for Jewish) and : for others Original Title Optional suffix FYI: optional suffix is typically year translated into English, which usually corresponds with publication date. (Author) can include list of Authors. Some commentary series known by primary author have a number of contributors. Abbreviated Title update (since often appears in Tab due to original title + prefix being longish): ?< for Plagiarism Alert #### Year Initials: Series OR Author Bible Book abbreviation(s) Likewise learned Library can be sorted by more than one level, which is helpful for title modification comparison. Screen shot shows work in progress to update Titles (for commentaries that are not in a Series): [Image] Screen shot also shows MyTag customization from thread => Collection rules for sorting commentaries that has a number after Commentary to sort Historical groupings: Commentary1Antiquity (0030-0500) Commentary2Medieval (0501-1516) Commentary3Reformation (1517-1729 plus includes some earlier works by Reformation authors) Commentary4Awakenings (1730-1900) Commentary5Modern (1901+) Wikipedia article => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening has four date ranges for Awakening with last one overlapping various categories (so am using time span of first three for Awakenings grouping). Thankful for Morris Proctor mentioning at Camp Logos about lessons learned using Logos (make a mistake then revise for better use). Keep Smiling
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Hi KS4J,
This is system is really interesting and I am in the process of implementing it myself. However, I was wondering what you thought about adding a book number prefix to the title Eg. "04. 1979 NICOT (Wenham) = Leviticus" instead of "1979 NICOT (Wenham) = Leviticus".
My thoughts are that this would mean that commentaries on the same book are clustered together in one's library whilst still being sorted by publication date.
I also plan on adding a prefix for commentaries on apocalyptic books stating their millennial positions eg. [AM], [<-M] [->M] for amill, premill, and postmill for respectively.
What do you think?
This is system is really interesting and I am in the process of implementing it myself. However, I was wondering what you thought about adding a book number prefix to the title Eg. "04. 1979 NICOT (Wenham) = Leviticus" instead of "1979 NICOT (Wenham) = Leviticus". My thoughts are that this would mean that commentaries on the same book are clustered together in one's library whilst still being sorted by publication date.
For volumes that comment on one book, number prefix would cluster them. Logos wiki has => Canonical Commentary Collections
A number of Series have volume(s) that comment on more than one Bible book: e.g. Joel & Obadiah
Minor Prophet volumes have a variety of Book combinations. Some New Testament Epistles tend to have a volume with more than one book: e.g. 1st, 2nd, & 3rd John
Millennium prefix could be three characters:
For grins, searched a dynamic collection: Lang:English Type:Commentary Subj:Revelation for
Amillennial OR Premillennial OR Postmillennial OR ((millennium,"thousand years" NEAR (before,after,present))
Screen shot shows millennial indicator added to some titles.
Still working on my system, but I think this screen shot shows the need for something. This is Wiersbe's "Be" series where some of them are titled and some have the book(s) included. There doesn't seem to be any real continuity. I am changing so that I can spot the book at a glance.Other additions may come later, but for now I'm definitely trying to make sure the series and book(s) are visible.
As time moves forward you will figure out which commentaries you like and will make those available in your personal set. When I first started this many years ago I used the recommendations on bestcommentaries.com to first make my personal set. But as time moved and I studied I found other commentary I preferred over the recommendations by bestcommetaries. There is nothing better than studying the scriptures yourself and when you get to the commentary finding the commentary you prefer and putting that into your personal series. It is a time consuming process but well worth the effort. Today, my personal set is uniquely me and sometimes I will find better commentary I prefer and move it to the personal series. Enjoy your studies!
Could I add a monograph or five and a few good dictionaries to a primary package of searchables containing the commentaries? Or does this put apples with oranges with rhinos?
Logos wiki => Canonical Commentary Collections has complex rules that have Commentaries plus Monographs with Bible Indexing.
Dictionaries tend to have headword indexing, which is different than Bible Milestone indexing.
Screen shot shows Information Tool has Definition for Shalom (so opened Lexham Theological Wordbook). Explorer Tool has Commentaries section so opened UBS Handbook. The Monograph "Transformation: the Heart of Paul's Gospel" has Bible references, but does not have Bible indexing (open to page 75 that includes Phil 4:2-3 reference.
KS4J (sorry, I don't know how to clip a previous post): I would have thought the same thing about using two digits to number, but surprisingly, the 10 doesn't jump between the 1 and 2 in a list. One more question: In your style using ?< for plagerism and = for best commentaries, is it possible to search your library for titles containing these symbols? Thanks for all your help!
KS4J (sorry, I don't know how to clip a previous post)
Logos wiki has => Using the Forums that includes
I would have thought the same thing about using two digits to number, but surprisingly, the 10 doesn't jump between the 1 and 2 in a list.
Thankful for many friendly forum and Faithlife discussions: have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn. Pleasantly surprised by Title sorting. For grins, created a collection that showed 2 jumps between 19 and 20 (so collection name sorting does not have Title sort modification).
Thank you, Matt. [Where did all your posts go? Only 3.]
Thank you, Keep.
Looks like both of you keep collections pure [dict in one, comm in another], but Matt mentioned I can mix them together like trail mix.
... keep collections pure [dict in one, comm in another]
Personally like grouping similar items together. Have customized series for a number of IVP Dictionaries:
Opening an IVP Dictionary allows me to enter a headword. If not found in that resource, other resources in series are searched: e.g. peace
Clicking Peace from suggestions causes different IVP Dictionary to open:
I am one of those who joined LOGOS from WORDsearch.
I am a church member who uses LOGOS for my daily devotions/Bible study and for writing my script (I used to work in radio) when leading our church satellite group on Sundays
What I have done is to set up my left-hand pane with all the Bibles I use regularly and the right-hand pane with the commentaries that use.
This seems to work for me.
Blessings from Yorkshire.
